AS hiring heads up

747Dispatcher said:
i just saw VX is hiring dispatchers !!
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I think going to VX would be good for someone looking for a short term way to get ETOPS and LCC experience. I would not go to VX if you want a long term stable job. There is no guarantee that AS will keep any or all of the VX dispatchers very long beyond the single operating certificate in early 2018. Even if they do, it means a move to SEA and likely stapling to the bottom of a long list.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
I think going to VX would be good for someone looking for a short term way to get ETOPS and LCC experience.
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ETOPS experience seems mythical among the field of regional candidates aiming for the big international carriers, but I feel like there isn't enough evidence to support the commonly assumed idea that it makes 'the difference' for anyone aiming at majors, much less does it justify a gamble on a carrier whose very existence is tenuous at best.
 
kilo said:
ETOPS experience seems mythical among the field of regional candidates aiming for the big international carriers, but I feel like there isn't enough evidence to support the commonly assumed idea that it makes 'the difference' for anyone aiming at majors, much less does it justify a gamble on a carrier whose very existence is tenuous at best.
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In my face to face interview, ETOPS was discussed pretty thoroughly. I think it absolutely makes a difference to show international and ETOPS experience and knowledge. Not that you can't and won't get hired without it but it does help.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
I think going to VX would be good for someone looking for a short term way to get ETOPS and LCC experience. I would not go to VX if you want a long term stable job. There is no guarantee that AS will keep any or all of the VX dispatchers very long beyond the single operating certificate in early 2018. Even if they do, it means a move to SEA and likely stapling to the bottom of a long list.
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VX would be good experience but you wouldn't get any ETOPS experience that I am aware of. All their flights are to the US and Mexico, nothing to Hawaii which is the only destination I can think of that you would fly an A320 on an ETOPS route. (And that would be a stretch.) It's possible they operate some Caribbean stuff at the lower end of ETOPS (75 minute) but even that is usually all within an hour of a suitable airport.

I agree it would be pretty risky to go to VX right now. For everyone who has asked, why join a union? Well, this is one reason why - a merger clause in case your carrier ends up merging with another airline. I am not a labor expert, but right now I think they could choose to not hire any of the existing VX employees and there would be no legal ramifications in doing that. I know when Reno Air was purchased by AA, not all of the dispatchers there got job offers - they were also non-union - and some of the job offers that did get extended were "transferred" to management employees, leaving a few of the regular dispatchers high and dry. At any rate, I would definitely want some reassurance (in writing) that I would still have a position once the merger is complete before taking any offer with VX. If they refuse to give you a guarantee - someone else will be hiring before too long.
 
They fly SFO-HNL and OGG, and LAX-HNL and OGG. Decent experience if you're looking for it, especially trying to send an A320 LAX-HNL fully loaded. :)
 
Burrito said:
Can I get a second opinion/confirmation in saying that posting was up for four hours and is already gone...?
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I'm not in the market, but I saw the posting last night around midnight eastern on Indeed. If it is gone, it is gone.
 
BravoMikeDX said:
They fly SFO-HNL and OGG, and LAX-HNL and OGG. Decent experience if you're looking for it, especially trying to send an A320 LAX-HNL fully loaded. :)
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Ah OK, my bad. I had no idea they were in the Hawaii market. Actually, I had no idea an A320 had the *fuel capacity* to do that. But hey, if it works for them, good job. And yes, that would be some good ETOPS experience, even if it's not true long-haul international stuff.
 
No worries, all pretty recent. When the A321-neos come along, I think they intend to replace the A320s on that route. It may make life a lot easier for some people in the winter!
 
Mainline_or_bust said:
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Yo CRJ - you'd be a moron if you aren't applying. This company straight up has not hired from the outside world (see: peasants) in months.

Good luck everyone.
 
manniax said:
Ah OK, my bad. I had no idea they were in the Hawaii market. Actually, I had no idea an A320 had the *fuel capacity* to do that. But hey, if it works for them, good job. And yes, that would be some good ETOPS experience, even if it's not true long-haul international stuff.
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Oh, it's got the gas. Carrying payload with the required fuel, well.... It's really the biggest reason we abandoned sending the -800's across the drink. We'd have had to block off all the center seats at least. In the winter, it's a one way trip with any payload at all...
 
Flagship_dxer said:
VX dispatchers as of now are not union. There has not been anything said about what will happen to the VX dispatchers should the SFO center close but if it does, I imagine that they wont be getting DOH seniority on the AS list. Likely will be stapled if they are even offered jobs with AS.

So getting hired now is a good time to get hired by AS. It is likely that within a few years, you could have a bunch of people underneath you just from the merging of the two companies. Thats also not taking in account other hiring AS may need to do.

Compared to other mergers though, there wont be a need for a JCBA as there is no need to merge two different contracts into one. You may not get legacy or WN pay at AS and SEA may be higher cost than DFW or ATL but your seniority will likely be excellent in a few short years and AS is a good company to work for.

The caveat to this is if the AS union feels sorry for the non union VX dispatchers and does offer them DOH then you could be stuck at the bottom of a long list for a long time.
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I wouldn't bet on them being stapled to the bottom.The McCaskill-Bond Act makes that very unlikely.
 
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