Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels fligh
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tonyw
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You know, here's something to think about.
Know what the country with the highest Muslim population is? Here's a hint. Get your mind out of the middle east, cause it's not there. Here's another hint. It's a democratic nation and they just voted out their current leader.
Still don't know? Okay, I'll tell you. It's Indonesia. It has a population nearly the size of ours, with 240 million people. By comparison, Iraq has 25 million, Iran has 69 million, and Saudi Arabia has 26 million.
And they've got their own problem with Muslim extremists.
Know what Indonesians look like?
Ready to profile nearly two billion people?
You know, here's something to think about.
Know what the country with the highest Muslim population is? Here's a hint. Get your mind out of the middle east, cause it's not there. Here's another hint. It's a democratic nation and they just voted out their current leader.
Still don't know? Okay, I'll tell you. It's Indonesia. It has a population nearly the size of ours, with 240 million people. By comparison, Iraq has 25 million, Iran has 69 million, and Saudi Arabia has 26 million.
And they've got their own problem with Muslim extremists.
Know what Indonesians look like?
Ready to profile nearly two billion people?
ready2fly
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Re: Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels f
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How in the world does some Arabic writing, inside an in-flight magazine, constitute a security threat?
I don't get it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Don't you know, Steve? Terrorists ONLY write in Arabic. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
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How in the world does some Arabic writing, inside an in-flight magazine, constitute a security threat?
I don't get it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Don't you know, Steve? Terrorists ONLY write in Arabic. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
tonyw
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Re: Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels f
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Don't you know, Steve? Terrorists ONLY write in Arabic. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
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Uh oh. Watch me write in Arabic. Ready?
1....2....3....4....5....6....7....8....9....10
Someone call Ashcroft.
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Don't you know, Steve? Terrorists ONLY write in Arabic. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
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Uh oh. Watch me write in Arabic. Ready?
1....2....3....4....5....6....7....8....9....10
Someone call Ashcroft.
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Guest
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Re: Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels f
Just because there is arabic writing on the mamganize, it doesn't mean something is going to blow up. Well we don't really know if something will or won't blow up, but cancelling a whole flight for something like this doesn't seem very logic in my point of view.
Just because there is arabic writing on the mamganize, it doesn't mean something is going to blow up. Well we don't really know if something will or won't blow up, but cancelling a whole flight for something like this doesn't seem very logic in my point of view.
ready2fly
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Re: Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels f
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Just because there is arabic writing on the mamganize, it doesn't mean something is going to blow up. Well we don't really know if something will or won't blow up, but cancelling a whole flight for something like this doesn't seem very logic in my point of view.
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From the mouths of babes.
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Just because there is arabic writing on the mamganize, it doesn't mean something is going to blow up. Well we don't really know if something will or won't blow up, but cancelling a whole flight for something like this doesn't seem very logic in my point of view.
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From the mouths of babes.
flyover
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And they've got their own problem with Muslim extremists.
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Glad to see you are finally coming around! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Of course, one advantage they'd have over us is, they could probably read the scribbling.
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And they've got their own problem with Muslim extremists.
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Glad to see you are finally coming around! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Of course, one advantage they'd have over us is, they could probably read the scribbling.
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Just because there is arabic writing on the mamganize, it doesn't mean something is going to blow up. Well we don't really know if something will or won't blow up, but cancelling a whole flight for something like this doesn't seem very logic in my point of view.
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From the mouths of babes.
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What do you mean?
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Just because there is arabic writing on the mamganize, it doesn't mean something is going to blow up. Well we don't really know if something will or won't blow up, but cancelling a whole flight for something like this doesn't seem very logic in my point of view.
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From the mouths of babes.
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What do you mean?
flyover
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Yeah, except their Muslim extremists do NOT fit the profile.
Take a look a the ethnicities of the people in Indonesia and then let me know what you think about profiling.
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I'm not sure what proflie you are talking about. Are you totally focusing on race? Real security profiles look at more things than ethnicity.
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Yeah, except their Muslim extremists do NOT fit the profile.
Take a look a the ethnicities of the people in Indonesia and then let me know what you think about profiling.
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I'm not sure what proflie you are talking about. Are you totally focusing on race? Real security profiles look at more things than ethnicity.
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Re: Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels f
I agree. Maybe they judged the cancellation based on what it said on the magazine.
I agree. Maybe they judged the cancellation based on what it said on the magazine.
TheShortOne
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Are you totally focusing on race? Real security profiles look at more things than ethnicity.
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Race and ethnicity are two seperate things, and actually security profiles look at ethnicity (a group of people who hold common thoughts/ideas/beliefs/generally live together etc). Ethnicity is exactly what profilers look at. THey look at the specific religion (not just islam but what particular type) they look at skin tone which is a pretty bad indicator, where a person is from, etc.
Race is nothing more than a social construct
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Are you totally focusing on race? Real security profiles look at more things than ethnicity.
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<nitpick>
Race and ethnicity are two seperate things, and actually security profiles look at ethnicity (a group of people who hold common thoughts/ideas/beliefs/generally live together etc). Ethnicity is exactly what profilers look at. THey look at the specific religion (not just islam but what particular type) they look at skin tone which is a pretty bad indicator, where a person is from, etc.
Race is nothing more than a social construct
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TheShortOne
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Re: Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels f
if you read the article, it says that what was written was more philosophical, more of a prayer.
if you read the article, it says that what was written was more philosophical, more of a prayer.
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Why take the plane flying if you have what could be a security threat.
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I understand the thought of why take the plane flying if you have somtething that could be a threat, but that is my question. I really question why Arabic handwriting would be considered a threat. I did not see it in the article, but I wonder who found the writing. My guess is someone that rarely flies and just got panicky when they saw something that was outside of their normal routine. My gosh, it's something different, stop the plane. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Why take the plane flying if you have what could be a security threat.
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I understand the thought of why take the plane flying if you have somtething that could be a threat, but that is my question. I really question why Arabic handwriting would be considered a threat. I did not see it in the article, but I wonder who found the writing. My guess is someone that rarely flies and just got panicky when they saw something that was outside of their normal routine. My gosh, it's something different, stop the plane. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
I_WANNA_BE_ATP
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One the one hand I feel cancelling the flight was overkill but then again how careful can you be. I'm wondering what the airlines policy is?? Indonesia is a very scary part of the world. Unless you watch BBCamerica you have no idea what really happens in the rest of the world.
tonyw
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I'm not sure what proflie you are talking about. Are you totally focusing on race? Real security profiles look at more things than ethnicity.
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Yeah, the sloppy, easy "let's stop them cause they're middle eastern men" profiling. That's the kind of stuff that most people think of.
Now, if you want to profile based on behavior, well, not only is that much more effective and useful, but it also is not racist so it has that benefit as well!
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I'm not sure what proflie you are talking about. Are you totally focusing on race? Real security profiles look at more things than ethnicity.
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Yeah, the sloppy, easy "let's stop them cause they're middle eastern men" profiling. That's the kind of stuff that most people think of.
Now, if you want to profile based on behavior, well, not only is that much more effective and useful, but it also is not racist so it has that benefit as well!
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Re: Arabic handwriting found in magazine cancels f
Anybody get a translation on what it said? It's probably some guy's grocery list or the crossword puzzle. It may have even been someone's idea of a sick joke. I could probably "fake" arabic by drawing squiggly lines that looked like it. To me, this was a SERIOUS overreaction. Besides, if a terrorist is making a threat, don't you think they'll write their letter in language the target can understand?
Anybody get a translation on what it said? It's probably some guy's grocery list or the crossword puzzle. It may have even been someone's idea of a sick joke. I could probably "fake" arabic by drawing squiggly lines that looked like it. To me, this was a SERIOUS overreaction. Besides, if a terrorist is making a threat, don't you think they'll write their letter in language the target can understand?