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In a huge thunderstorm no less, and did such a steller job, the aircraft was flown away from the accident site back to MSY.
I believe the pilot also had only 1 eye. The airplane is still flying today.
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In a huge thunderstorm no less, and did such a steller job, the aircraft was flown away from the accident site back to MSY.
How about a fire warning half way between Hawaii and Long Beach. You follow the checklist and descend to 250. Masks are on but you see no smoke. You take a mask off and smell no smoke. Now what? This is the one that gives me chills. False fire warnings are fairly common (though I've never had one).
M&Ms will be melting in my hand by the time I get on the ground, assuming I get on the ground.How about a fire warning half way between Hawaii and Long Beach. You follow the checklist and descend to 250. Masks are on but you see no smoke. You take a mask off and smell no smoke. Now what? This is the one that gives me chills. False fire warnings are fairly common (though I've never had one).
Is there any reason the PNF couldn't do that?It'd be nice to have a loadmaster or additional crewmember. "Take that walkaround bottle and have a look..."
In a smoke/fire situation, neither pilot crew member should leave the controls.Is there any reason the PNF couldn't do that?
Did the occupants walk away? Looks like the landing was successful.In flight fires aren't very fun. This one was caused by fuel and not a battery. I think those batteries should be restricted from aircraft. I would feel super uneasy from flying them around. Could huge fire bags be made for those pallets? Could they hold off the fire long enough for a ditching?
Chills.
How about a fire warning half way between Hawaii and Long Beach. You follow the checklist and descend to 250. Masks are on but you see no smoke. You take a mask off and smell no smoke. Now what? This is the one that gives me chills. False fire warnings are fairly common (though I've never had one).
I said, "PROTECT ESSENTIAL!"
Most newer airliners have automatic protection for attitude instrument power, but some (read: -247) 727s would at least keep SOME instruments running with all the generators offline, even if you didn't select STANDBY on essential power.
Other random 727 stuff:
One generator inop and flaps extended - one pack off.
Two generators inop and flaps extended - both packs off.
The pack fans are hefty loads on the 727 and they run whenever flaps are extended and the pack switch is on, if I recall correctly (@Derg), so some load shedding is required when you can a generator with the flaps extended.
This jives with what we do at Brand Y as well. Unless there's a controllability issue, in which case the old experienced hands should probably be on the controls at some point, I would say.
That might make the fire/smoke or visibility situation worse, depending. Opening, say, a cockpit window, might actually draw MORE smoke into the cockpit.
weight=profitHow about Ejections seats for the crews if it gets that bad....They trust us with everything else I think a professional flight crew would know when to pull the handles and when no to
weight=profit
Bumblebee said:I would think that a flight deck that is completely sealed off (or sealable) from the rest of the aircraft would be a better and more viable option...even to make a glider out of a small capsule
I would think that a flight deck that is completely sealed off (or sealable) from the rest of the aircraft would be a better and more viable option...even to make a glider out of a small capsule
oh really? Does that do that?F-111 style?
oh really? Does that do that?