Any LDS (Mormon) Pilots out there??

Doug Taylor said:
Well, I'd be dead! What else do I have to do for an eternity? A guy can only do so much sudoku and I'd have no Jepp revisions to enter.
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WHY would you want jepp revisions?

Thats what long legs are for, and layovers in OAK unless you wanna venture out in the ghetto past 8 to the walmart dodging syringes and stray bullets...

And you could have an eternity of something worse... like going to the FSDO.... i dunno...
 
horizonq400 said:
I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and a Private Pilot with Instrument Rating currently working on my Commercial certificate and have been seriously questioning my decision to be a professional pilot. All of my life I have dreamt of flying professionally. I have pictured myself in the cockpit of an airliner or whatever and I thought nothing could change that desire, but I have come to realize lately that to me, family is FAR more important and being there for them.

I want to have a family, and be with them more than not. Financially, it's a worry also, and I also want to diligently serve in the church.

So many worries have surfaced as of late and I need a little help. Whether it's from members of the LDS faith or not. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Either on here or via e-mail. I'm sure many if not most of you can relate to my dilemma. Thanks everyone.

PS, this is my first post.
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Uh....... I am

Wanna have a beer?


Words of advice from a training captain to me who is also here on this site.

"Don't let some $30,000 piece of #$%^ airplane get in the way of your relationship with your family"


I suppose the same can be said for your religion.


Welcome to JC
 
If Elder Dieter F. Uchtdorf (one of the main church leaders) can be a captain for Lufthansa German Airlines for 26 years, I am pretty sure any member of the church can fly and still be an active member in church! When he was called "as a General Authority, he was the senior vice president of flight operations and chief pilot of Lufthansa German Airlines. He was also chairman of the Flight Operations Committee of the International Air Transport Association".

* quotation indicate copied from his Bio on the church site.
 
Doug Taylor said:
I know a lot of guys who have done really well with families after getting into the airline business.

It just all "depends", but I know a lot of guys on their first wife, house chock-full-o-kids and seem happy in the airline business.

BUT!

Wife curls up in the fetal position if you're out of the house for more than a day? FAIL.

YOU curl up in the fetal position if you're away from home for a few days? FAIL.

Either of you two are intensely jealous of one another? FAIL.
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Nice. Very true. You have to find someone who can function independantly while you are away and not hate your guts for being gone half of the week. This stuff applies to any person, regardless of religion, that wants to have a decent relationship.

Plenty of Mormons are airline pilots. Lots of people from other religions/beliefs are too. They share similar concerns about family and time off.

A portion, myself included, of the SkyWest pilots in the Salt Lake base are LDS. (Contrary to some of the impressions people from out of the area might have, many of our pilots are not LDS. Honestly, I find that most everyone gets along. :) )

Expect that you may not always have Sundays off until you have enough senority for them. How long? Your mileage will vary, depending on many factors. When I first upgraded, I probably had two Sundays off in nearly six months. Other than that I have been fairly fortunate and can usually get them off. (Though not always. But that is the nature of this business . . . and many others.)
 
Doug Taylor said:
Or helping reunite a soldier with his family after a tour in Iraq?
I'm sure the big guy would understand, your pastor may not, but it's not his call! :)
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It seems like almost every week we have someone coming from Iraq or Afghanistan on board. One cool thing about flying smaller regional aircraft is you can often see their family and friends lined up, looking out the windows of the small regional airport terminals when they arrive. You get to be a tiny part of that moment. I never get tired of that.
 
I would just become a actor. Then you could be home every night.
 

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It's okay. I've had captains and first officers request that I pray with them. I'm a non-practicing Catholic and I will put my head down to respect their religious beliefs.

I had a Muslim captain request the same, and I decided to run a checklist. I cannot respect his beliefs.
 
JungleJet said:
It's okay. I've had captains and first officers request that I pray with them. I'm a non-practicing Catholic and I will put my head down to respect their religious beliefs.

I had a Muslim captain request the same, and I decided to run a checklist. I cannot respect his beliefs.
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This seems very disrespectful and closed minded to me.
 
bafanguy said:
Baj,

You're right...there are many variations on a theme in the 121 world (and other av worlds, to be sure) and it often takes time to get a spot that suits one's priorities. But, I'd expect most positions require nights away.

I never understood how you freight guys could live a life/career on the backside of the clock (yes, I know not every freight pilot does it this way). I always considered it uncivilized to be in the airplane after dinner time. :)
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I drink a lot.
 
JayAre said:
Uh....... I am

Wanna have a beer?


Words of advice from a training captain to me who is also here on this site.

"Don't let some $30,000 piece of #$%^ airplane get in the way of your relationship with your family"


I suppose the same can be said for your religion.


Welcome to JC
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Ahhh...did I say that? Because I can see myself saying that, but being that we had our sim sessions at like 2:00 in the morning I don't remember a lot that went on.

:)
 
If you are LDS and have more than one wife, will the airlines give all your wives pass privileges, or just one wife at a time, or do you have to choose one of your wives to have the pass privileges all the time?

Seriously, my Grandpa flew for TWA from 1953 to 1984. Admittedly those were the good ol' days, but being junior is still being junior. He and my Grandma were able to raise 5 children, be founding members of a new church (Methodist) which required time and lots of money, have an active hobby life, and a wonderful career. Did he miss Birthdays and Christmas sometimes (when he was junior) - sure, but they would celebrate when he got home and nobody was bitter about his job. If you want to be an airline pilot then you can figure out how to make it work I imagine.
 
JungleJet said:
I had a Muslim captain request the same, and I decided to run a checklist. I cannot respect his beliefs.
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RWH1986 said:
This seems very disrespectful and closed minded to me.
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As a practicing Catholic and someone who spend more years growing up living in Muslim countries than not, (courtesy of Mobil Oil,) I would have to agree that is extremely closed-minded. Anyone know what faith Terry Nichols is? I know that Timothy McVeigh was a Catholic, I guess I shouldn't respect my own beliefs?
 
mavsfan31 said:
I would try and find a job as a corporate pilot, or something with a schedule allowing for you to be home every night. I would think it'd put too much stress on your wife to leave her at home for a few days at a time with all those kids.

Also, I would think with only day trips, you could swing it to where you could go to church on Sunday.

Hopefully that didn't come off as bashing or anything, cause I'm really not trying to poke fun.
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I would disagree with this post. I am involved with corporate aviation on the side right now and you never know when you are going to be gone. You are on call most of the time and when the phone rings, wether at 3am or 3pm, you go. With an airline you will be gone a lot at first but you do know when you are gone and when you will be home. As you get more seniority you will be able to pick your own schedule, being home when you need to be and being gone when you can. You also can opt to fly less as your seniority goes up so you are home more days out of the week. I am getting married in May '09 and this has been a big issue with my fiance and I as well. Best of luck to you man. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.:rawk:
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
I would disagree with this post. I am involved with corporate aviation on the side right now and you never know when you are going to be gone. You are on call most of the time and when the phone rings, wether at 3am or 3pm, you go. With an airline you will be gone a lot at first but you do know when you are gone and when you will be home. As you get more seniority you will be able to pick your own schedule, being home when you need to be and being gone when you can. You also can opt to fly less as your seniority goes up so you are home more days out of the week. I am getting married in May '09 and this has been a big issue with my fiance and I as well. Best of luck to you man. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.:rawk:
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Welcome to JC... you down in MQY? I'm right up the road from you.
 
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