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One thing I learned over the years is that a good measure of how trustworthy a source of information is can be measured by the inverse of how much effort they put on proving they are trust worthy.

I worked for XYZ flight school from December 06 to January 08. That doesn't make me a the voice of reason on every matter related to XYZ flight school just because I happen to have an association with it.

Millitary people are guilty of this a lot. They'll say things like "The US military is [insert extremely wrong opinion that couldn't be more wrong here] , AND I SERVED IN IRAQ SO I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU WERENT THERE". As if being in the military automatically makes everything you say completely correct.

Anyways, how am I supposed to take advice from anyone who tries to claim that they know for a fact that I'm going to flunk out of some training program because of some posts I've made on the internet. Give me a break.

All I wanted to know is if anyone has any real first hand knowledge regarding Ameriflight's handling of applicant's currency status prior to the interview process. I'm ignoring and dismissing the advice because quite honestly I didn't ask for any.
Did you call Sherri yet?
Did you apply?
OR are you just waiting for someone to come on here and agree with you? If they are worth their salt or have flown anything outside of the flight sim community it's not going to happen.

You have 1400 hours and change. That's 200 above the minimums, that's nothing. Why should they take a chance to even waste time interviewing you? When was the last time you did an NDB hold? What makes you better than the 100 other guys out there applying who are current and have a resume as good if not better?

Can you go out there and fly, sure. But you aren't going to convince a company to spend a dime on you if you don't meet some basic requirements.

Frankly I think your attitude is the biggest barrier to you accomplishing anything. If you came on here humble and genuinely asking for help you probably would have had a much better response. This community is awesome. I have no doubt in my mind if you were open to what this community would provide you probably gotten an offer for some free sim time from a random flight school. Maybe even some flight time. You had a handful of people who could have gone to Amflight and said we want this guy in our pilot group and you would have had an interview.

When i wanted to work at Amflight and was desperate to get the ball moving because they weren't responding to my application, I went to JC. My resume was walked into the VP of flight ops and the following day I got an interview arranged. Next I had a flight school let me use the same sim I was to do my interview in. I had twice your time and they barely looked at me until I had friends tell them I was good enough.

Keep pissing off people and see where it gets you. You have no idea who is reading your posts and it will be blatantly obvious when your application comes in and matches your posts. :clap:
 
Did you call Sherri yet?
Did you apply?
OR are you just waiting for someone to come on here and agree with you? If they are worth their salt or have flown anything outside of the flight sim community it's not going to happen.

You have 1400 hours and change. That's 200 above the minimums, that's nothing. Why should they take a chance to even waste time interviewing you? When was the last time you did an NDB hold? What makes you better than the 100 other guys out there applying who are current and have a resume as good if not better?

Can you go out there and fly, sure. But you aren't going to convince a company to spend a dime on you if you don't meet some basic requirements.

Frankly I think your attitude is the biggest barrier to you accomplishing anything. If you came on here humble and genuinely asking for help you probably would have had a much better response. This community is awesome. I have no doubt in my mind if you were open to what this community would provide you probably gotten an offer for some free sim time from a random flight school. Maybe even some flight time. You had a handful of people who could have gone to Amflight and said we want this guy in our pilot group and you would have had an interview.

When i wanted to work at Amflight and was desperate to get the ball moving because they weren't responding to my application, I went to JC. My resume was walked into the VP of flight ops and the following day I got an interview arranged. Next I had a flight school let me use the same sim I was to do my interview in. I had twice your time and they barely looked at me until I had friends tell them I was good enough.

Keep pissing off people and see where it gets you. You have no idea who is reading your posts and it will be blatantly obvious when your application comes in and matches your posts. :clap:

Mikecweb is a guy who has helped a lot of people into jobs, mentored other pilots while they're on the line, and volunteered in his spare time to better the quality of life for his co-workers. There's people who belong to this community who have made major contributions for the benefit of other pilots, and freely offer up advice.

Let's get rid of the post count on JC: More eyes and ears, less typing.
 
Millitary people are guilty of this a lot. They'll say things like "The US military is [insert extremely wrong opinion that couldn't be more wrong here] , AND I SERVED IN IRAQ SO I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU WERENT THERE". As if being in the military automatically makes everything you say completely correct.

Excuse me? Aside from the sweeping generalization you just made, do you even know what you're talking about here? There are toolbags everywhere, but this sort of broadbrush statement reeks of abject ignorance.
 
It's a long shot, but any chance of going back to arguing Metro v. 1900?

For the record, I think you pressurized turboprop guys are spoilt rotten. Ratty piston twins down in the crap with engines that are trying to tear themselves apart is where it's at. :)
 
It's a long shot, but any chance of going back to arguing Metro v. 1900?

For the record, I think you pressurized turboprop guys are spoilt rotten. Ratty piston twins down in the crap with engines that are trying to tear themselves apart is where it's at. :)

Thats why I loved the Chieftain. Another good cargo piston was the Cessna 404 Titan.
 
I seems like the general consensus is that if you are out of the cockpit for any longer than 6 months or so, your pilot skills are greatly degraded. Maybe I'm the aviation equivilent of the Rainman or something, but I don't feel like me being away from the cockpit has degraded my skills in any measurable way.

I can think back to my lat flight in June, and it just seems so odd to me that it should be normal that my skills should be degraded in any great was since then. Sheesh, I know what a missed approach point was back then, I know what one is now. Back then I knew what to do when passing the final approach point, and miraculously I know what to do now as well. It just seems completely foreign to me that I'm supposed to not know this stuff. I've never considered myself any better than the rest of the pilot population, but I don't know, I guess I must be...

Make sure you call that out on your resume so they'll know that you're different than most people.
 
Thats why I loved the Chieftain. Another good cargo piston was the Cessna 404 Titan.

I know these are "the good old days" and eventually I'll move on up, but it's just flat out fun flying.

It'll be fun to look back on horsing around a 310 covered in ice day in and day out. That being said, I can't wait. 310s in the Dakotas in the middle of winter have a high suckage factor.

You just can't beat the experience of flying freight. Best job ever. (Until the next one, probably. :))
 
I know these are "the good old days" and eventually I'll move on up, but it's just flat out fun flying.

It'll be fun to look back on horsing around a 310 covered in ice day in and day out. That being said, I can't wait. 310s in the Dakotas in the middle of winter have a high suckage factor.

You just can't beat the experience of flying freight. Best job ever. (Until the next one, probably. :))

It was definitely fun when I did it, and a great experience. A good number of things and experiences I had from that flying, served me well in later jobs.
 
Did you call Sherri yet?
Did you apply?
OR are you just waiting for someone to come on here and agree with you? If they are worth their salt or have flown anything outside of the flight sim community it's not going to happen.

Yes I applied and no I'm not going to call. Honestly, knowing for sure if Ameriflight will automatically throw my app away is not really that important to me. It'd be nce to know, but I'm not going through the trouble of calling anyone about it.

You have 1400 hours and change. That's 200 above the minimums, that's nothing. Why should they take a chance to even waste time interviewing you? When was the last time you did an NDB hold? What makes you better than the 100 other guys out there applying who are current and have a resume as good if not better?

The fact that I'm not instrument current should be the last thing that affects my chances of getting a call from Ameriflight. Simply because BFR/medical/ipc currency is relatively easy to get (money notwithstanding), and it says nothing of your ability to fly (people will disagree with this statement but they're wrong). This is why it's be dumb for me to go out and pay $500 (that I don't have) to get current.

Can you go out there and fly, sure. But you aren't going to convince a company to spend a dime on you if you don't meet some basic requirements.

Sometimes a job ad will say something like "must live in [insert name of small town here], Montana" under the requirements section of the ad. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll throw out all resume's from people without a small town Montana address.

Frankly I think your attitude is the biggest barrier to you accomplishing anything. If you came on here humble and genuinely asking for help you probably would have had a much better response. This community is awesome. I have no doubt in my mind if you were open to what this community would provide you probably gotten an offer for some free sim time from a random flight school. Maybe even some flight time. You had a handful of people who could have gone to Amflight and said we want this guy in our pilot group and you would have had an interview.

When i wanted to work at Amflight and was desperate to get the ball moving because they weren't responding to my application, I went to JC. My resume was walked into the VP of flight ops and the following day I got an interview arranged. Next I had a flight school let me use the same sim I was to do my interview in. I had twice your time and they barely looked at me until I had friends tell them I was good enough.

I'm going to go off topic here a little but, but this part kind of pisses me off a little, but for a different reason. I find it kind of disappointing that you seem to be assuming that I'm "failing" at posting here because it's resulting in people getting pissed off at me. As if the only reason anyone would post here is to just get people to like them enough to walk their resume in. The sad thing is, most people on this forum are here for that reason and that reason only.

If I were to pretent to be a Delta 777 captain who is in charge of hiring at Delta, I guarantee people would let me get away with posting just about anything. I could say the sky is purple, and no one would dare disagree. Why risk angering a person by telling them their crap stinks, when you can instead not risking pissing me off, but instead kiss the ring and maybe just maybe someday it'll all pay off with me walking in resumes.

It pisses me off because I think this is at the core of many of the problems with aviation. Before I started flying I worked in the software engineering industry. We have forums just like this one. One of the things I like about those forums, is that you can call someone out when it's warranted. It don't matter who who are or who you work for. If you say something stupid, you're going to get called out on it. And by doing so, you were actually looked up upon by most others. Thats because most others had the critical thinking skills to see a post from an established member as even having the slight possibility of being wrong.

But on this forum is much different. I asked if anyone had any info on how Ameriflight hires. All I get is a response basically saying "Of course you need to be current, how else will you pass training!!!". Thats not an answer, all that is is drivel. Since that user is an OMG AMERIFLIGHT PILOT I'm supposed to just keel over and accept is as gospel. I don' care who you are or who you work for, if you want to make the assertion that not current = can't fly, then I'm going to respond and tell you you're wrong. If you want to cry about it and add me to you list of "internet users who called me out and made me cry" then go right ahead. Would it be better for my career if I just shut up and joined the circle jerk by letting the people feel like they're a special snowflake? Yep. But I'm sorry I just don't have the patience to put of with that crap for as long as it takes until it pays off. Also I guess I'm just too principled. If I'm going to get a job in aviation, I'd feel better if it were gotten fairly instead of by kissing up to people on the internet.
Keep pissing off people and see where it gets you. You have no idea who is reading your posts and it will be blatantly obvious when your application comes in and matches your posts. :clap:
feel free to add me to your list of "internet users who have pissed me off". write a blog post about it. twitter it.
 
Yes I applied and no I'm not going to call. Honestly, knowing for sure if Ameriflight will automatically throw my app away is not really that important to me. It'd be nce to know, but I'm not going through the trouble of calling anyone about it.
Why did you apply in the first place? If your only willing to fill the app and not follow up, then it seems like you interested in the job just enough to not work for it. Like said previously, if you came in here just asking for help, and had a humble attitude about it (as in, not even sucking up) there are people who would help walk your resume in. At AMF, knowing someone on the inside goes a long ways. I knew a pilot that shared your similar attidute on currency and having a checkmark of a BFR says nothing about someones pilot skils... He made it through training and didn't even make it 3 months before the company canned him. Sure everyones pilot skills are different. Maybe you can go a fair amount of time without touching the controls and ace a traffic pattern. But thats only a part of whats necessary. Having a proper attitude makes a huge distance. There are companies that hire solely on that. Sadly your attitude of I know better then people collectively who have 50k+ in the cockpit and years more experience then you, in your mind, don't know best. Have fun on unemployment. In your OP, you could have ended that streak, but to each there own.
 
For the record, I think you pressurized turboprop guys are spoilt rotten. Ratty piston twins down in the crap with engines that are trying to tear themselves apart is where it's at. :)

What about the Unpressurized turboprop guys? Just spoiled? :)

I do have a bit of nostalgia when I see a 'HO parked on a ramp.
 
If I were to pretent to be a Delta 777 captain who is in charge of hiring at Delta, I guarantee people would let me get away with posting just about anything. I could say the sky is purple, and no one would dare disagree. Why risk angering a person by telling them their crap stinks, when you can instead not risking pissing me off, but instead kiss the ring and maybe just maybe someday it'll all pay off with me walking in resumes.

Nope. The community catches people posing all the time. I'm pretty sure that if you posed as a Delta 777 captain, you'd be found out before the end of the day!

There are pilots that range from student pilots to retired airline on here. If any of them are flat out wrong on something they say, they'd be called out on it. Sometimes in a nice way and other times in a not so nice way. There's not much ego stroking here.


Remember you need Ameriflight. Ameriflight doesn't need you. There are tons of people hoping to get hired there.
 
I'm not getting "mad" at anyone. I sense that you all are getting mad a me because I dare not kowtow to the superior baseless anecdotes of those who left AMF over 2 years ago, or who have never had anything to do with AMF ever.

The poster you're refering to, I had to go back a few pages to learn he "left in July of 2007". Back in those days I imagine most people were probably starting at AMF less than 24 calendar months after their discovery flight. No offense or anything, but 2.5 year old anecdotes in this industry don't mean much.

I'll play. I am a CURRENT training captain for Ameriflight. Get current.
 
I'll play. I am a CURRENT training captain for Ameriflight. Get current.
When you say "get current" are you just meaning "you must know how to fly because the training is really really rally hard", or are you saying Ameriflight actually has a concrete policy where you absolutely have to get a BFR on your own time BEFORE they'll even look at your resume because they will not supply you with one. Those two ideas are completely orthogonal, yet this thread has kind of smeared them together. I'd just like you to clarify...
 
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