I did a special once where we bulked out a Lear with just mice.Better hope they're not flying lab mice like Airnet used to...
I did a special once where we bulked out a Lear with just mice.Better hope they're not flying lab mice like Airnet used to...
To be fair, going through a 142 training program where they virtually make it where anyone and everyone passes is a bit different from training where the company is liable for any training deficiencies. Even a student pilot could pass a ride in a jet at most of those places.
Yes but even the Regionals will give people a fair shot. It takes several sim failures during initial training to be kicked out at my airline. They understand that this is the first job where a CFI will see flows and fly such aircraft with the required procedures. At AMF I have only seen them give 1 retraining event at the most in BUR. This includes when I transitioned into the BE99.
One instructor actually threatened my job at AMF when I made an EASY mistake. I geared up the 1900 FTD. Easy mistake since there were no screens and my internal trigger didn't go off for my short final gear check. It was during the emergency sims on a non-precision approach. Of course I was struggling since I was transitioning to the 99 NOT the 1900. They threw a bunch of new power settings and speeds at me and said "go" for my emergency sims. Yeah, they had no problems with setting their pilots up for failure AT ALL. Worst part is that the 99 sim next door was blasting loud emergency horns and stuff as well which made everything even more confusing.
Got into the actual plane and did the training there in minimum time and passed the checkride without difficulty.
This is exactly what I mean! That is such a setup for failure. I too was thrown into the 1900 sim. "Oh hey remember all that stuff we made you memorize? Well for sim training we are sticking you in a different airplane so here is a bunch of new numbers to memorize."
The sim profiles aren't aren't a training event at AMF. Where as you have training, and critique sessions in 121 and 142 training environments.
A buddy of mine was booted from AMF during 99 training after the second emergency session because he would go forward on the prop lever, out of sheer habit from flying piston twins for several years. This guy had passed PA31 training, and at least 1 recurrent, I think maybe 2 so he had been flying the line for a year. I personally flew with him and he was just fine. Making the guy repeat the session, giving him no training and expecting the problems to be fixed is pretty unreasonable. Not everyone can just instantly fix problems, or learns at the same rate.
I heard from a guy that recently went through their ground school that they give you three shots in the sim... if it's not also for a type that is. Then if you still bust it the third time they give an open invitation to come back in three months and try again which is actually what happened to him. His impression of the current training at AMF was very positive.
Riddlers in the training department? God help us all.
Not to mention the direct hire training captains that don't even meet the IFR PIC minimums....
Uhh, wait a minute, if i'm doing training on the line with one of them, then who is PIC? Seriously?
Uhh, wait a minute, if i'm doing training on the line with one of them, then who is PIC? Seriously?
They are hiring just about anyone that meets basic standards, and are running two indoc classes a month. The pass rates for Indoc are pretty good, but the Chieftan/99 training guys haven't gotten the memo about "shortage" on the line. They are failing people left and right, and then filling the seat with the next body finishing indoc. It is becoming an assembly line for pilots, with a very high percentage getting kicked to the side.
The training department is changing very quickly, and growing. The head of the department is moving to a different position, and they are bringing in several new people from the line. Some are not even 21 years old, former "Riddle-ites", and are given the "power" to fail people.
The training captains on the line are all experienced pilots who have been flying the line for a little while at least. Most for more than a year. The people that illini8o3 is talking about are in the training department (ground school/sims). As far as I know, there are not any of those people left. Everyone in the training department are part 135 captains - with varying amounts of experience.
The training captains on the line are all experienced pilots who have been flying the line for a little while at least. Most for more than a year. The people that illini8o3 is talking about are in the training department (ground school/sims). As far as I know, there are not any of those people left. Everyone in the training department are part 135 captains - with varying amounts of experience.