turbomax97
What can brown do for you?
Had a similar guy - couldn't ever get a medical, but he could shoot an ils down to mins in the king air sim.... i was impressed. My current instrument students decided they weren't trying hard enough.
Ameriflight hiring?
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Had a similar guy - couldn't ever get a medical, but he could shoot an ils down to mins in the king air sim.... i was impressed. My current instrument students decided they weren't trying hard enough.
flyTotheSky
Well-Known Member
Do you know what airplane he was hired into?
fortunately im not one of those guys , i probably would never have gone for flight training if i knew that i wasnt gonna to make it , i have the mental and physical means ,and i have an opportunity with a national airline , so why not ?
if you are telling me this , what would you say about a CFI who barely has 300 Hrs and who want to teach you something about aviation !
anyway , all i wanted to say is that this company's pay scale is ridiculous , its probably a good startup but to to work 20 years+ for them and not make 100K/Yr is not fair .
speaking of real airlines , there are many out there , your problem is you think that america is the world and everything is here , you need to expand your mind , and look all around , the world is much bigger than that
Don't worry! I used to fly for AMF and I can tell you NO ONE will make it that long. AMF doesn't like pilots who are even close to 40 years of age! THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO GET RID OF THEM! I know. AMF does practice age discrimination. Also, if you mention "back pain", you're history!!
I agree that there is good experience to be had, but, some future companies will like it, others won't. The big handicap is no CRM! Yea, you can fly the s**t out of the airplane, but do you know how to conduct yourself in a multi-crew environment! Some of you will say "sure!", but try to convince the interviewer your CRM skills are as good as anyone's when your operating in a Single-Pilot-IFR environment.
Also AMF doesn't have as great a reputation as some of you may think. During some of my interviews I found that out the hard way. Also, AMF management isn't the greatest. Their attitude about pilots is this; You are pieces of meat to be used and abused and spit out at will. Pilots are a dime a dozen! Unfortunately anyone flying for AMF will only discover this when it is too late!.
My advice! If you're going to do it, get in, get your experience and start looking for another job immediately and get out before something happens. Trust me, in that environment, it's not a matter of "IF" but "when" something happens!
Good luck!!
In my indoc class there was a guy who is 59...just saying.
c172captain
Well-Known Member
Glimmering ray of hope on the horizon
AirAlgerie
New Member
listen man , no offense meant , i said that because i felt that you are underestimating .
anyway , the whole thing was about the pay scale , all i wanted to say again is that it isnt fair for a 20 year senior pilot to get paid that much , now if someone wants to stay there or move on , its for them to decide .
and im in no way critisizing anybody's capabilities , but just do not underestimate anyone , everyone of us started from somewhere . you didnt get your private training on a triple 7 did you? we all started from a 172 or a piper , tell me if i am wrong , everyone starts from scratch . and it is no rocket science , even a gardner can become a pilot .
peace
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
There are probably 5 pilots at Amflight that have been there that long.
Maybe.
Possibly.
And I think all of them are in management positions now, so the pay scale doesn't mean much.
I'd say if you stick around at Amflight for more than 5 years you've either got so many DUI's not even Spirit will hire you, you've got such a repulsive personality that nobody will hire you, or you've crashed so many airplanes that nobody will hire you.
KLB
Well-Known Member
My indoc roomate was also in his 50's when he was hired.
And some AMF'ers have also gone on to the "big leagues" also. I wouldn't necessarily say that their bowing to our "freight greatness"( I wouldn't expect then to), but it does happen.
SIUav8er
Narcosis
They are... theres a class on the 8th
RICHARD5
Well-Known Member
Whatever happened to the "boxes don't talk back" cliche? I'm tired of hauling stupid ass pax. And I mean them that don't understand how the two ends of a seatbelt work and worse. My personaility aint repulsive, I've yet to crash even once and I have zero DUIs. I just prefer single pilot with boxes.
Bumblebee
Commodore
funny . . . they offered me a job when I was 45 ... and gave me time to consider my options, to which I finally declined with a good relationship. He told me if I wanted a job in the future to let him know!
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
You must be one of the 5, then.
Seriously the only people I know that have been there forever are Hazlet, Bob and Sherrie. Even Kaveney, the system chief pilot, was there well under a decade. There are a handful of guys (possibly like yourself) who do runs that have you out at 6:00 a.m. and back by 9:00 a.m., but they are few and far between.
skatergeek
Beet Farmer
How is he doing? Did he make it to CVG yet?
SIUav8er
Narcosis
I missed this post... but why would AMF even hire such a pilot? Isnt that a huge risk on their part?
Yup he's in CVG.
I think John is being a little bit of smartass, shocker.
That is definitely one thing that is different between amflight and Airnet. Airnet had alot of vetern Lear captains before all the went down last fall. They had probably close to 20 guys that had been there over 15 years with a handful that were there for over 20.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Indeed I was being a smartass...kind of. There are some real freaks and deviants flying around there that simply can't get out for one reason or another. I'd say the majority cut and run at a few seemingly predetermined points.
1. They log some time in the Chieftain, bail to the regionals (me).
2. They log some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, get a little bit of time and bail to a charter/fractional gig (lots of guys).
3. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the Metro/1900 and then move onto a national (a few guys).
4. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, gear up a 99, and are either fired or never leave because they can't find another job.
5. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the 1900, upgrade to the Metro, do whatever management would like them to do, and eventually become management.
6. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the 1900, upgrade to the Metro, upgrade to the EMB-120, and go to Southwest.
7. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the 1900, upgrade to the Metro, upgrade to the EMB-120, upgrade to the Lear, land at Palmdale instead of Fox field and thus, never leave. Oh and then they dump the Lears, so I dunno what happened to that guy.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Those guys are most likely hacks that got through training by purchasing their Seattle based check airmen hookers.
Or so I hear...