American September 2025

I would advise anyone looking at this job posting to take into account that you are going to be very junior for an extended period of time. Probably a decade or two.

If you are older than age 30, you are not ever going to hold a Pacific AM/PM line and might get a junior Europe or Latin AM/PM line after ten years.

In the 2026 dispatch schedule bid, you had to be in the top 85 out of 420 dispatchers to hold a Pacific AM/PM shift. Most of those 85 will probably be retired in five years or so but the 335 dispatchers that dont have the seniority right now for Pacific are largely younger than age 45.

Its not much better for holding Europe or Latin AM/PM lines.

The company added a ton of international qualifications for new dispatchers to pick up after covid hiring boom. It will be difficult to even get
moved to Europe from domestic to cover vacations and sick calls.

If you want to work international flying, go to Delta or United or be ready for a long stay on international midnights. Even those go somewhat senior here as well.

If you like domestic flying and midnight shifts with a regional workload, you will love working for us.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
I would advise anyone looking at this job posting to take into account that you are going to be very junior for an extended period of time. Probably a decade or two.

If you are older than age 30, you are not ever going to hold a Pacific AM/PM line and might get a junior Europe or Latin AM/PM line after ten years.

In the 2026 dispatch schedule bid, you had to be in the top 85 out of 420 dispatchers to hold a Pacific AM/PM shift. Most of those 85 will probably be retired in five years or so but the 335 dispatchers that dont have the seniority right now for Pacific are largely younger than age 45.

Its not much better for holding Europe or Latin AM/PM lines.

The company added a ton of international qualifications for new dispatchers to pick up after covid hiring boom. It will be difficult to even get
moved to Europe from domestic to cover vacations and sick calls.

If you want to work international flying, go to Delta or United or be ready for a long stay on international midnights. Even those go somewhat senior here as well.

If you like domestic flying and midnight shifts with a regional workload, you will love working for us.
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Flagship_dxer said:
I would advise anyone looking at this job posting to take into account that you are going to be very junior for an extended period of time. Probably a decade or two.

If you are older than age 30, you are not ever going to hold a Pacific AM/PM line and might get a junior Europe or Latin AM/PM line after ten years.

In the 2026 dispatch schedule bid, you had to be in the top 85 out of 420 dispatchers to hold a Pacific AM/PM shift. Most of those 85 will probably be retired in five years or so but the 335 dispatchers that dont have the seniority right now for Pacific are largely younger than age 45.

Its not much better for holding Europe or Latin AM/PM lines.

The company added a ton of international qualifications for new dispatchers to pick up after covid hiring boom. It will be difficult to even get
moved to Europe from domestic to cover vacations and sick calls.

If you want to work international flying, go to Delta or United or be ready for a long stay on international midnights. Even those go somewhat senior here as well.

If you like domestic flying and midnight shifts with a regional workload, you will love working for us.
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You must be a joy at parties - sheesh.
 
Now being told we are looking to hire 20-30 by end of the year, in 1-2 classes. Just waiting on official accountant approval. We anticipate 5% growth next year, so we want to be staffed for it by next summer.

Also heard Frontier is looking to use FKYs?
 
Flagship_dxer said:
I would advise anyone looking at this job posting to take into account that you are going to be very junior for an extended period of time. Probably a decade or two.

If you are older than age 30, you are not ever going to hold a Pacific AM/PM line and might get a junior Europe or Latin AM/PM line after ten years.

In the 2026 dispatch schedule bid, you had to be in the top 85 out of 420 dispatchers to hold a Pacific AM/PM shift. Most of those 85 will probably be retired in five years or so but the 335 dispatchers that dont have the seniority right now for Pacific are largely younger than age 45.

Its not much better for holding Europe or Latin AM/PM lines.

The company added a ton of international qualifications for new dispatchers to pick up after covid hiring boom. It will be difficult to even get
moved to Europe from domestic to cover vacations and sick calls.

If you want to work international flying, go to Delta or United or be ready for a long stay on international midnights. Even those go somewhat senior here as well.

If you like domestic flying and midnight shifts with a regional workload, you will love working for us.
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True as that may be, I think very very few applicants would be in a position to pick and choose between AA/DL/UA over line bids. It's whoever gives the offer first.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
I would advise anyone looking at this job posting to take into account that you are going to be very junior for an extended period of time. Probably a decade or two.

If you are older than age 30, you are not ever going to hold a Pacific AM/PM line and might get a junior Europe or Latin AM/PM line after ten years.

In the 2026 dispatch schedule bid, you had to be in the top 85 out of 420 dispatchers to hold a Pacific AM/PM shift. Most of those 85 will probably be retired in five years or so but the 335 dispatchers that dont have the seniority right now for Pacific are largely younger than age 45.

Its not much better for holding Europe or Latin AM/PM lines.

The company added a ton of international qualifications for new dispatchers to pick up after covid hiring boom. It will be difficult to even get
moved to Europe from domestic to cover vacations and sick calls.

If you want to work international flying, go to Delta or United or be ready for a long stay on international midnights. Even those go somewhat senior here as well.

If you like domestic flying and midnight shifts with a regional workload, you will love working for us.
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That's an awful lot of words to say you hate your job and you forgot what it's like to be on the outside looking in. There are loads of folks out there that would give a kidney to just BE on the seniority list at AA, and like all majors there's gonna be attrition through retirements at the very minimum, plus the half dozen or so a year that do something stupid and get themselves canned and those that decide that Texas isn't for them (it is an acquired taste. Things here are....different). Will you be junior for a while? Maybe. Will you be junior for decades? I highly doubt it, unless everyone at the office is in their 30's or AA has found some way to keep guys alive and working at the desk into their 90's.

You can't move up if you don't move in.
 
flynryan692 said:
Last I heard Frontier is close to going live with FPM, unless something has changed recently.
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At least FPM is made by the same people as FKYs and is very similar. It’s just older, more glitchy and cannot do as much as FKYs. But it is definitely similar in build, layout and how you have to plan things. It is a good starting point and training base for FKYs. Maybe, and this is a big maybe… AA would consider that in hiring people since they want FKYs experience so much.

UA uses FPM, wondering when or if United will jump on the FKYs train as well.
 
pljenkins said:
That's an awful lot of words to say you hate your job and you forgot what it's like to be on the outside looking in. There are loads of folks out there that would give a kidney to just BE on the seniority list at AA, and like all majors there's gonna be attrition through retirements at the very minimum, plus the half dozen or so a year that do something stupid and get themselves canned and those that decide that Texas isn't for them (it is an acquired taste. Things here are....different). Will you be junior for a while? Maybe. Will you be junior for decades? I highly doubt it, unless everyone at the office is in their 30's or AA has found some way to keep guys alive and working at the desk into their 90's.

You can't move up if you don't move in.
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Just since I began, there has also been a small handful that have passed away. May they RIP… 😔

Yes there are a ton of new hires that are in their 20s and 30s, but there’s still over 50% of the seniority that is middle aged and much older. Either way… You can either be Junior at AA for years to come making 6 figures and working 1750 hrs a year or less (with options for overtime if and when you choose) or you can stay at the regional or 135 making whatever it is you make. Working 2080 hours or more.

We’re so large with 540+ dispatchers, you don’t see the same people every day. I hardly ever see management, so you’re definitely not micromanaged like we were at the regionals. They trust us to do our job and don’t question every little decision we make. We have a great team and group of people. Is AA perfect? Maybe not, but it’s damn better and far less toxic than a lot of other places I have worked.

Btw, absolutely nothing wrong if you happen to love your regional or 135. There’s a lot to say about loving where you work and live as well. I would know, I’m not a big fan of DFW. So if you’re happy where you are then that’s most important and all you can ask for. I’m just saying a lot of people are not happy where they are, and personally I enjoy AA far better than I did my regional and some other previous employments.
 
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