American Eagle told to play ball or become Comair-II
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Maximilian_Jenius
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H46Bubba
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At the Delta Investors Day several weeks ago, management advised investors that DCI will be paired down to a fleet of 100-125, 50-seat RJ's by 2015. The question is who is going to get cut the most. Look for the other two major carriers to follow suit.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
I want to "like" this news. I think in the long run (like @Seggy might) I do like this news. In the "here and now" though...
jwp_145
GhostRider in the Sky
Ya, I wanna "like" how my union told us to give up money, reduce our fleet size, and stagnate to the point of near reversal, so that Delta could keep more of theirs and their pilots could profit share, also represented by the same union. That's what I "like".
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
I don't know anything about Eagle or ComAir, but I'm contractually obligated to like posts with Futurama references.
Agree. The mainlines bred the regionals when they got aircraft too big to go everywhere they wanted to go and still wanted those routes. America West used to fly their own mainline-owned and mainline-flown Dash-8s, then they wanted bigger planes and contracted out their former Dash 8 routes to Mesa, who replaced them with 1900C/Ds, then later Dash 8s again. Like you say, all the regional eggs are in one basket; their money comes from only one place: their parent carrier. And that money is generally a fixed amount with little to no flexibility....the flexibility being the two areas you mention: executive and employee. There's simply nowhere to get extra money to do anything more; not unless a "American Eagle Cargo" division is created, or the like. So regionals are screwed, as are their employees, at the will of the mainlines; who are happy to whipsaw them against one another like a Roman coliseum of slaves. Just not the place you want to be. For some, it was all they could get, being hired with little to no TT, and having next to zero TPIC (for places requiring it), so they're stuck.
scooter2525
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Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Dunno. I think the goalposts tend to move. I know a couple of guys (and have "heard of" a LOT more) who have gone from the right seat of an RJ (after a long stay in said seat, to be fair) to the right seat of the "big iron". The two I know of went overseas, but I'm told a lot of the recent hires at US Air (or whatever they're calling it today) fit that description. I'm not sure TPIC means what it used to...seems like now the focus is more on 121, crew, glass, types, etc. Bad for me, good for others, but it makes a certain sort of sense.
Agree, while valuable, I also think the goalposts tend to move on the requirement to possess said value; all dependant on whether the hiring is good, or the hiring is few, at the particular month/year.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Oh, yeah, I think 121 PIC still means something. 135 less so. But probably both of them less than they used to. Which, again, isn't a complaint, just an observation. Like I said, there's at least some kind of logic to hiring people who have been doing essentially the same job in a smaller but still-very-similar plane.
L-16B
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Yet passengers don't understand why we don't gate check bags because the 190 is a little plane......
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
I don't have one single hour of 121 PIC. (Yes, I have some regrets)
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Well, if I read the tea-leaves of your other post right, it's all worked out for the best in the end (crossed fingers and toes, etc).
Lord knows you've earned it if anyone has!
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
Neither do I. It's overrated anyway.
I think you get a pass for flying stuff they make action movies about.
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
Have you ridden in one? If you haven't, as a pax, I'll take that over a 73, tied maybe with the bus cabin.