Am I out of a job?

[USMCmech]

Not a troll post. It is just not specific enough. Sorry. New title: ATP Written requirements change after AUG 1?

You are right, I have known about this for a long time, what surprised me is that a number of people are telling me that if I do not take the written before August 1st 2013 that I will not be able to take it until the feds figure out the new CTP requirements. Which would cost a lot of time and money.

No, the new ATP written requirements kick in Aug 1, 2014. So therefore you have a full year to take the old ATP written, and pass the checkride 24 months later in a PA-44 just like always.

In the future, the ATP written will no longer be "just memorize all the answers" test that it is today. The Feds want you to actually learn about high altitude weather, and swept wing jet aerodynamics. They want future ATP applicants to learn this in a formal ground school as part of new hire training at an airline, or as part of a type rating at the big sim centers like Flight Safety. The ATP ground school should be rolled into your first type rating.

It should go without saying that you as a new hire should NOT be paying for either of these scenarios!

 

[z987k]

No, the new ATP written requirements kick in Aug 1, 2014. So therefore you have a full year to take the old ATP written, and pass the checkride 24 months later in a PA-44 just like always.

In the future, the ATP written will no longer be "just memorize all the answers" test that it is today. The Feds want you to actually learn about high altitude weather, and swept wing jet aerodynamics. They want future ATP applicants to learn this in a formal ground school as part of new hire training at an airline, or as part of a type rating at the big sim centers like Flight Safety. The ATP ground school should be rolled into your first type rating.

It should go without saying that you as a new hire should NOT be paying for either of these scenarios!

But I need an ATP to fly my non-typed turbo prop(135.4). I wonder if there's any consideration for what an ATP means in the 135 world vs 121.

 

[Rodger Wilco]

But I need an ATP to fly my non-typed turbo prop(135.4). I wonder if there's any consideration for what an ATP means in the 135 world vs 121.

Yes I think so. It seems to me that in the language of the final rule they are distinguishing between 121 and 135. When it comes down to minor details I am not sure. I think that only the PIC in a 135 would need the ATP whereas Both the PIC and FO need it for 121. Also the written exam is different if you are pursuing 135 or 121.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

But I need an ATP to fly my non-typed turbo prop(135.4). I wonder if there's any consideration for what an ATP means in the 135 world vs 121.

No. In fact, you guys should get a different rating. Airline transport pilot, indeed.

(heavy )

 

[z987k]

No. In fact, you guys should get a different rating. Airline transport pilot, indeed.

(heavy )

It is kind of weird with the very very heavy emphases on 121 that it seems like an ATP for 135 purposes has been forgotten.