Allegiant votes for Teamsters

What are the chances of 4 days now? Or is it expected that the schedule will continue to be primarily out and backs?
 
Supposedly they had low voter turnout and only a won fractionally. Since they're not required to pay dues until they have a contract it stands to reason that the Teamsters won't make too much money from "no" voters or pilots who didn't vote - at least not right away.

It will be interesting to watch.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Yeah, I know. Don't get me started. I'm doing everything I can to change that.
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I know you can't comment publicly (or at all really), but what is the Executive Office's justification of that? I really don't want to waste any more of my dues money on Pizza Parties for the Skywest guys, but properties that at least have a shot at joining should probably be considered.
 
BobDDuck said:
I know you can't comment publicly (or at all really), but what is the Executive Office's justification of that? I really don't want to waste any more of my dues money on Pizza Parties for the Skywest guys, but properties that at least have a shot at joining should probably be considered.
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I'll send you a PM.
 
What does ALPA think about little guys like us? I don't know how it works really, all I know is that my money goes to ALPA and I am protected if I make simple mistakes.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
What does ALPA think about little guys like us? I don't know how it works really, all I know is that my money goes to ALPA and I am protected if I make simple mistakes.
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ALPA treats everyone the same. The little carrier like Island Air gets the same services that a big carrier like Delta gets.
 
BobDDuck said:
I know you can't comment publicly (or at all really), but what is the Executive Office's justification of that? I really don't want to waste any more of my dues money on Pizza Parties for the Skywest guys, but properties that at least have a shot at joining should probably be considered.
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Not sure what ATN_Pilot said, but as an organization, either you are growing or shrinking. If you are shrinking, you are dying.

We had an opportunity to get two or three Canadian Airlines under the ALPA Umbrella that were slam dunks (due to the way Canadians view unions and their voting rules to get them on property), but was not allowed to continue. A lot of us were not happy about that.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
What does ALPA think about little guys like us? I don't know how it works really, all I know is that my money goes to ALPA and I am protected if I make simple mistakes.
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Good question.

As ATN_Pilot said, you get the same services as an airline such as Delta does. What are the services? Think of them as insurance services that go beyond it if you make a simple mistake.

For example, our former POI was getting his peepee slapped around shortly after the accident by a lot of folks. So naturally he decided to interpret a Flight Time/Duty Time Regulation in a different way and ended up sending over 30 Pilots Letters of Investigation. If ALPA wasn't there each pilot would have probably needed to spend a couple of thousand of their own money to get a lawyer to respond to these LOIs (AOPA Legal Services only go so far and have little idea how to handle 121 Regs intertwined with specific OPS Specs). The ALPA Lawyers responded for free, well actually they told the POIs bosses-boss-boss-boss what was going on and the poo rolled down hill. Each Pilot was given a Letter of No Action and nothing is on their record.

Another 'insurance' service offered is ALPA Aeromedical. Have ANY issues with your medical or questions concerning your medical, you have access to this service for free.

I think you are seeing how ALPA works on the industrial side. Aren't y'all taking on larger airplanes? If so you have a CBA that clearly spells out how much you will be paid for those planes or spells out a process on how y'all will figure out how much you will be paid to fly those planes.

I worked at a nonunion airline and two union airlines. While ALPA isn't perfect, but having ALPA on property is A LOT better than working for a nonunionzed airline.
 
IBT has all of those services as well, which should provide the Allegiant guys a good foundation.
 
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