Alaska Hawaiian Merger

[Roger Roger]

I heard an interesting rumor recently, and I don't think it was an internal rumor......and I truthfully can't remember who I heard it from. Maybe I dreamt it? Anyway, the rumor is that Eskimo buys a bunch of "new" -700 NGs that get built on the existing P-8 line.

That rumor has been floating around, seems pretty pie in the sky. The version I heard has it as -800s.

Will we still need to carry rubber bands?

I thought I heard the P8 has EICAS? But probably yes

 

[///AMG]

Will we still need to carry rubber bands?

It will fall apart without them, you know this!

I did poke my head into a P-8 once not too long ago, and the center console was definitely a bit different than the civilian NG. More radios and stuff because P-8 people are nerds.

 

[Skåning]

Guppy people are nerds

FTFY

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Always
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VBROs on offer for FOs for every single base next bid. But don’t worry we aren’t overstaffed.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

I heard an interesting rumor recently, and I don't think it was an internal rumor......and I truthfully can't remember who I heard it from. Maybe I dreamt it? Anyway, the rumor is that Eskimo buys a bunch of "new" -700 NGs that get built on the existing P-8 line.

Denial is probably the most powerful emotion. It creates some amazing stories. Rather that just acknowledging the truth. The NG line being brought back from the dustbin is more plausible than getting our MAX 10 orders now? The scary part is we need to get replacements from our highest cycle and time airframes the existing 700NGs. It’s also a ticking time bomb on the HAL side with the 717.

I never thought I’d be lock step with @Cherokee_Cruiser but here we are. I wouldn’t count on any growth for a few years. Not until the MAX 10 is certified or a suitable replacement is formally ordered with a delivery timetable.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

My 7-8 yr prediction is 0 Amazon and just Dreamliners and MAXes/NGs.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

My 7-8 yr prediction is 0 Amazon and just Dreamliners and MAXes/NGs.

That’s a lot of Airbii to park… 330 and 321 bonus 717.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

That’s a lot of Airbii to park… 330 and 321 bonus 717.

Doable. They’ve done it before. 73 Airbii gone.

 

[Reserve4Ever]

My 7-8 yr prediction is 0 Amazon and just Dreamliners and MAXes/NGs.

Im not sure why anyone would think anything other than this would be the ultimate plan.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Im not sure why anyone would think anything other than this would be the ultimate plan.

Not counting for the augmented crews on the 330, if they do that. Thats a reduction of 994 pilots.

Your user name just might be prophetic.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

VBROs on offer for FOs for every single base next bid. But don’t worry we aren’t overstaffed.

It’s September.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Not counting for the augmented crews on the 330, if they do that. Thats a reduction of 994 pilots.

Your user name just might be prophetic.

I’m not saying that. Minus the 330F, I suggest a case of a 1-for-1 replacement of 330 to 787.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

I’m not saying that. Minus the 330F, I suggest a case of a 1-for-1 replacement of 330 to 787.

There are 24 330-200 at 14 pilots per aircraft that’s 336 pilots.

There are 18 321s at 14 pilots per aircraft that’s 252 pilots.

Not saying we are going to furlough nearly 500 pilots but your numbers mean we aren’t going to grow until we get nearly 50 additional aircraft.

We got 8 gross this year I think.

 

[BobDDuck]

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There are 24 330-200 at 14 pilots per aircraft that’s 336 pilots.

There are 18 321s at 14 pilots per aircraft that’s 252 pilots.

Not saying we are going to furlough nearly 500 pilots but your numbers mean we aren’t going to grow until we get nearly 50 additional aircraft.

We got 8 gross this year I think.

I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from. It would be odd to staff an augmented 330 the same way you'd staff an un augmented 321.

The 330 is at 18 pilots per plane (429) and the 321 is at 15 pilots per plane (280). That doesn't include pilots held in excess (management, LOA, ALPA, Mil Leave, etc).