Airnet SICs

For you, it's I can't wait to be Prop PIC at Airnet. For me, it's I can't wait to be Jet SIC. By the way, you made a great choice coming to Airnet. You'll love your job! See you in Columbus![/quote]

Thank you very much! I think I made the right choice as well. Your absolutely right. I think that the ones i've flown with were too busy thinking of getting to that next level that they forgot why they got into the career field, its like i've always been told by the DPE I do business with, also my mentor he'd say, "Slow the hell down, think about what your doing, just slow down." Here's a couple questions, How many are in each pilot class? And how long do you have to go till jet SIC? :rawk:
 
nocturnalaviator said:
For you, it's I can't wait to be Prop PIC at Airnet. For me, it's I can't wait to be Jet SIC. By the way, you made a great choice coming to Airnet. You'll love your job! See you in Columbus!
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Thank you very much! I think I made the right choice as well. Your absolutely right. I think that the ones i've flown with were too busy thinking of getting to that next level that they forgot why they got into the career field, its like i've always been told by the DPE I do business with, also my mentor he'd say, "Slow the hell down, think about what your doing, just slow down." Here's a couple questions, How many are in each pilot class? And how long do you have to go till jet SIC? :rawk:[/quote]

Only time will tell how many would be in your hiring class. "Normal" class size when I was going through training was 4 people.

On the positive side of going to Airnet at such low hours is that your seniority number will thank you when it comes to lear upgrade. You'll need 2000TT give or take to upgrade. There are no guarantees of course, but once you hit the 2000hr benchmark (At your hours, and assuming 1200hrs per year you'll upgrade in 1.5 years) you should be able to hold able to hold a lear SIC spot.

Congrats on the gig, it will be fun flying and you'll meet some cool folks.
 
Well, this thread has definitely made me rethink my decision to apply with Airnet. I only have 450TT and being a SIC for 9 months doesn't seem so attractive. I should probably call off the interview I was offered, or maybe just go for the experience.

Oh well, 150 more hours and I'll head off to XJet or Republic.
 
crosby87 said:
Well, this thread has definitely made me rethink my decision to apply with Airnet. I only have 450TT and being a SIC for 9 months doesn't seem so attractive. I should probably call off the interview I was offered, or maybe just go for the experience.

Oh well, 150 more hours and I'll head off to XJet or Republic.
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What did you think you would do there? Or is it whoever calls first thing?
 
No, I'd be at PSA or Piedmont already if that were the case.... I wasn't exactly sure what I'd be doing as a SIC, but you know, since it's something I haven't done before, that's to be expected.

If I were closer to the 135 mins I would love to fly for Airnet, but it's not worth the 9 months of bordem, I'd rather CFI(which I do enjoy, but it doesn't pay the bills) than be a worthless crew member.
 
crosby87 said:
No, I'd be at PSA or Piedmont already if that were the case.... I wasn't exactly sure what I'd be doing as a SIC, but you know, since it's something I haven't done before, that's to be expected.

If I were closer to the 135 mins I would love to fly for Airnet, but it's not worth the 9 months of bordem, I'd rather CFI(which I do enjoy, but it doesn't pay the bills) than be a worthless crew member.
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If you seriously look at yourself as a "worthless crew member", then you aren't ready for a crew environment. ...IMHO.

-mini
 
I love how everything is taken out of context on message boards. This is why I never partake in discussions.

I didn't think I would be a worthless crewmember until I read this thread. That is not something I want to be, I would much rather be in a position where I was actually needed.
 
Hypothetical situation:

Say "you", meaning any pilot, wanted to go to airnet as a SIC. "You" plan (for now) staying for a lear spot and sticking around for a bit until a 'career job' comes up. What would you (airnet pilots now) say would be a good balance of a bit of seniority vs a crapload of 'SICing'? Say the pilot in question was a CFI, with a 'ok' job.
 
OldTownPilot said:
Hypothetical situation:

Say "you", meaning any pilot, wanted to go to airnet as a SIC. "You" plan (for now) staying for a lear spot and sticking around for a bit until a 'career job' comes up. What would you (airnet pilots now) say would be a good balance of a bit of seniority vs a crapload of 'SICing'? Say the pilot in question was a CFI, with a 'ok' job.
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If money is no factor, both pay the same, and you really don't care what lear base you goto. Stay a CFI.
If you are waiting for a specific lear base you may wanna get that senority so that you can be ready to hold that base the second you get 2,000tt. But be aware there are some bases that have been locked up for years.
I'm pretty sure that didn't answer your question.
 
mikecweb said:
If money is no factor, both pay the same, and you really don't care what lear base you goto. Stay a CFI.
If you are waiting for a specific lear base you may wanna get that senority so that you can be ready to hold that base the second you get 2,000tt. But be aware there are some bases that have been locked up for years.
I'm pretty sure that didn't answer your question.
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Every bit helps, I'm a ways off from making a "big move", but have liked the idea of flying in BHB for a while, getting a good freight gig, with the opportunity for turbine time, and staying there until I made a move to a "career job".

Thanks Mike.
 
crosby87 said:
I love how everything is taken out of context on message boards. This is why I never partake in discussions.

I didn't think I would be a worthless crewmember until I read this thread. That is not something I want to be, I would much rather be in a position where I was actually needed.
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Can you show me where I took you out of context? If, after reading this thread, you think you'd be a "worthless crewmember" (your words), then you probably will be.

If, on the other hand, you think you can be there to learn, gain some real world experience navigating around thunderstorms (not through...around :D), in icing conditions, dealing with ATC, learning to make the "tough" decisions, then you will do just that.

Just because the regulations don't require you to be there doesn't mean you're "worthless". It's all about perception.

-mini
 
What do you think will be the future of Airnet in the next 2-4 years?

With the amount of checks declining do you think they will find packages/etc. to replace them?

If they were to downsize would more jets or props go? and what areas would be worth pulling out of?
 
azpilot84 Re: Airnet SICs
What's average pay as first year SIC at Airnet (after per diem and taxes are factored in)?
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I guess I should chime in here since I'm currently SICing with AirNet. Pay depends on how much your run flies. I think you are guaranteed at least 1300 a month before taxes. However, you will most likely make more than that since you will be put on a higher time run. I believe I made about 1600 my first month before taxes from 120 hours of flying.

I came out of training the beginning of October with 800 hours total. I'm currently at 1000 hours or so. I plan to be done SICing around the beginning of February. I've enjoyed my experience so far, and to me being an SIC for 400 hours of flying isn't bad, but I'm kind of a special case. I agree with the other AirNet guys who have posted here. It only takes a week of flying until you are familiar with how everything works. However, there is bright side of my SICing for more than a few weeks. I've gotten to experience thunderstorms, severe turbulence, icing, low approaches and flying in terminal areas with nothing but heavy jets with someone much more experienced than me. All of that experience took more than 50 hours of flying to accumulate. Also, due to being short of pilots, and not having an assigned PIC to my run anymore, the company had to charter out my run to another company to fly. As a result, they send me to another run in another city for the week to build time. I've been able to fly with a number of different people and in different parts of the country. All of which has proved invaluable since everyone has their own methods and insights into flying. Overall, everyone I've flown with so far has been really cool. If you are going to SIC for a while, come here knowing what you are getting yourself into and with a good attitude and you will be fine.
 
athomeinthesky said:
What do you think will be the future of Airnet in the next 2-4 years?

With the amount of checks declining do you think they will find packages/etc. to replace them?

If they were to downsize would more jets or props go? and what areas would be worth pulling out of?
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The future depends on what the new CEO does. He hasn't been quite as 'doom and gloom' as the old one, but still seems to suggest that the company might need to down size and consolidate before expanding. They are trying to fill the check void with their express work (time critical packages). The check business has been in steady decline for YEARS now, this is nothing new and has not been some big secret that the banks have kept from freight companies. The success of the company will hinge on their ability to keep and attract more business than they lose.

Where they pull airplanes out of is anyones guess and is left up to "airline engineering". A good indication of an airplane or a run going away is steadily decreasing bank work with no noticeable increase in express work. The airplanes do not go unused though, they are relocated rather than parked.

I think they have a lot of potential, but due to an apparent lack of communication between internal departments, a lot of system capacity gets overlooked and underutilized. That'll happen with any company though.
 
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