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I'm filling out airline apps info, and it wants to know my driving history:
on my current license, I have no infractions.. the only speeding tickets I ever got were in 1994 and 1995, with a license from another state.. should I put those down?
It wants details of how much the fine was, etc… that was 19/20 years ago.. I wouldn't have a clue!
 
Yes. It's easier to discard them during the HR portion of the interview, than it is to dig them up. It begs the question, what else is he hiding?
 
Two questions:

Where do you out any volunteer work you do? Do you put it in work history?

Also, where do you out your flight training that was done part 61 not associated with a college or flight school? Just an individual instructor in a private airplane.
 
mshunter said:
I'll be the first to say it. If it's dropped of your record, shut up about it. There is a reason why you aren't penalized for life for a damn speeding ticket, but can be for misdemeanors and felonies.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/Data/National Driver Register (NDR)
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However, disclosing in an airline interview shows honesty. That's a core value at many majors.

They aren't going to dock you for disclosing - besides, how much more suspicious do you look if you disclose no tickets (let's assume your lead foot went away)? I don't think any HR person would believe a pilot with no speeding tickets.
 
cencal83406 said:
However, disclosing in an airline interview shows honesty. That's a core value at many majors.

They aren't going to dock you for disclosing - besides, how much more suspicious do you look if you disclose no tickets (let's assume your lead foot went away)? I don't think any HR person would believe a pilot with no speeding tickets.
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I'm a pilot, and I don't have any speeding tickets, so should I say that I have had speeding tickets? :)
 
cencal83406 said:
However, disclosing in an airline interview shows honesty. That's a core value at many majors.

They aren't going to dock you for disclosing - besides, how much more suspicious do you look if you disclose no tickets (let's assume your lead foot went away)? I don't think any HR person would believe a pilot with no speeding tickets.
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Should they assume we routinely exceed 250 below 10,000 also?
 
cencal83406 said:
However, disclosing in an airline interview shows honesty. That's a core value at many majors.

They aren't going to dock you for disclosing - besides, how much more suspicious do you look if you disclose no tickets (let's assume your lead foot went away)? I don't think any HR person would believe a pilot with no speeding tickets.
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True… however being so vague about it would seem weird, wouldn't it?? The first one I can tell you exactly where it happened and that it was going 62 in a 45 and the fine was $120 and I think I can narrow down the date..
The second? I know it was '95 and probably in the spring but I couldn't even swear to that.. I know what town it was in. That's about it.
 
cencal83406 said:
I don't think any HR person would believe a pilot with no speeding tickets.
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True story... I "failed" one of the personality profile tests at my current gig because I answered too many questions about drinking and it's effects on me in the negative.

I don't drink. Ever.

In order to pass the test I had to answer the questions as if I did.
 
cencal83406 said:
However, disclosing in an airline interview shows honesty. That's a core value at many majors.

They aren't going to dock you for disclosing - besides, how much more suspicious do you look if you disclose no tickets (let's assume your lead foot went away)? I don't think any HR person would believe a pilot with no speeding tickets.
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This has to be the most ridiculous thing I have read all week. If they fail to hire me on the basis that they don't believe what's on my application, what kind of corporate culture do they have, and do I really want to be a part of it anyways.
 
To the OP, I think if it doesn't show up on a ten-year driving record there is no reason to bring it up. The information you provide regarding those tickets from 20 years ago wont even be accurate most likely, so whats the point?
 
The more you talk the more holes you dig. Keep your answers simple and don't try to over sell yourself. Relax and be yourself...... The more you talk the less chance you have of passing the interview. Trust me, I know. And for God's sake, don't start down a road that wasn't asked about by the interviewer. Learn to be comfortable not talking. It never hurts to have a few well thought out questions if you feel the need to open your mouth.
 
mshunter said:
I'll be the first to say it. If it's dropped of your record, shut up about it. There is a reason why you aren't penalized for life for a damn speeding ticket, but can be for misdemeanors and felonies.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/Data/National Driver Register (NDR)
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Not sure what you are saying. Wanted to clarify things. A speeding ticket that IS on your current record WILL NOT show up on a NDR check. A NDR is for more serious infractions DUI etc. Always, always disclose. Legacies have recently hired individuals with speeding tickets, ruining a red light ticket, even a DUI. Just make sure you report correctly and own it.
 
cencal83406 said:
However, disclosing in an airline interview shows honesty. That's a core value at many majors.

They aren't going to dock you for disclosing - besides, how much more suspicious do you look if you disclose no tickets (let's assume your lead foot went away)? I don't think any HR person would believe a pilot with no speeding tickets.
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I have no speeding tickets, should I burn home at 90 tomorrow to look better on an app?

:p
 
AAPalmTree said:
Not sure what you are saying. Wanted to clarify things. A speeding ticket that IS on your current record WILL NOT show up on a NDR check. A NDR is for more serious infractions DUI etc. Always, always disclose. Legacies have recently hired individuals with speeding tickets, ruining a red light ticket, even a DUI. Just make sure you report correctly and own it.
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That was kind of my point. They are required to check the NDR. If the OP had a speeding ticket or two, 20 years ago, it won't show up there or on his current DMV print out. It's 20 years in the past. Let a sleeping dog sleep.
 
mshunter said:
That was kind of my point. They are required to check the NDR. If the OP had a speeding ticket or two, 20 years ago, it won't show up there or on his current DMV print out. It's 20 years in the past. Let a sleeping dog sleep.
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I disagree. 20 years ago.. Non issue. Why not be honest? 99% chance they will not find out about it. What if there is a records glitch? Worth losing a $4-5 million job?
 
mshunter said:
Paranoia must be a real *redacted*. Again, if a company is going to terminate me because I got a speeding ticket 20 years ago, do I really want to work there anyway?
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Not paranoid in the least. I don't have many worries in life.
They will terminate you for the lie. Not the speeding ticket.
Again,
Ticket = no big deal
Lying = big deal

What else will you lie about when you work here is the worry.
 
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