Airline pilot central pay rates for United

[Inverted25]

Just a question for those who work there. I was talking to a United guy about pay rates and he claims United rates are much lower then what’s posted on APC. Is that true? Any one have a link to the last contract they can share?

 

[derg]

Comparing pay rates is like comparing renting an apartment to mortgaging a home.

You can earn FDX rates but earn less than an Allegiant pilot based upon work rules.

 

[learhawkerbe400]

Comparing pay rates is like comparing renting an apartment to mortgaging a home.

You can earn FDX rates but earn less than an Allegiant pilot based upon work rules.

Very true. But lots of guys just fly their 75-85 hour line and call it a day. So pay rates do matter.

You need pay rates AND work rules.

 

[bLizZuE]

Just a question for those who work there. I was talking to a United guy about pay rates and he claims United rates are much lower then what’s posted on APC. Is that true? Any one have a link to the last contract they can share?

No idea what he’s talking about but it looks like APC doesn’t show our Jan 1 raise. Couple bucks less on APC than actual.

 

[Lunchbox]

Comparing pay rates is like comparing renting an apartment to mortgaging a home.

You can earn FDX rates but earn less than an Allegiant pilot based upon work rules.

Pay rates are a good comparison for pay if you just fly your line and go home. Credit is credit, some is earned easier with good work rules. You can pick up credit at any airline, even G4 has some making 450k+.

 

[Dan208B]

Everything written here is correct. Hourly rates are a poor indication of actual pay. That being said, as an AVERAGE you can say $100/hr is about $100k a year. AVERAGE. Plus or minus significantly for some. But the United rates listed are correct for 2017. There was a small raise Jan 1.

 

[Maximilian_Jenius]

Everything written here is correct. Hourly rates are a poor indication of actual pay. That being said, as an AVERAGE you can say $100/hr is about $100k a year. AVERAGE. Plus or minus significantly for some. But the United rates listed are correct for 2017. There was a small raise Jan 1.

Was the Jan 01 raise, the "me too" clause?

 

[Dan208B]

Was the Jan 01 raise, the "me too" clause?

No that happened when Delta got their contract. Most airline contracts have "COLA" increases every year. Few dollars an hour.

 

[bLizZuE]

Ours wasn’t cost of living. It was a built in % increase to the contract extension.

 

[AAPalmTree]

You can earn FDX rates but earn less than an Allegiant pilot based upon work rules.

Would you mind telling APA this?

 

[derg]

Would you mind telling APA this?

They should know by now.

But rates are largely simply penis measurement.

 

[jtrain609]

They should know by now.

But rates are largely simply penis measurement.

I recently told a captain the most important thing in any contract was scope, and not rates.

He informed me I was young and short sighted.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

They should know by now.

But rates are largely simply penis measurement.

I recently told a captain the most important thing in any contract was scope, and not rates.

He informed me I was young and short sighted.

It’s usually the other way around. Needless to say you’re 100% correct


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[Soul Brotha']

I recently told a captain the most important thing in any contract was scope, and not rates.

He informed me I was young and short sighted.

We got some gems. MCO guys want top dollar and will sacrifice anyone who stands in their way. I try to explain work rules benefit all but they want to hear none of my voodoo talk. They are selfish pricks who need to get donkey punched daily.

 

[ClearedForOption]

We got some gems. MCO guys want top dollar and will sacrifice anyone who stands in their way. I try to explain work rules benefit all but they want to hear none of my voodoo talk.

I love talking to those guys when they say gems like: "You'll be senior someday." or "The company would never do that."

If they credit more than 6-6.5 a day, it's (always ) most of the time a "pull up the rope" mentality not understanding that a rising tide raises all boats and that, for instance, a 2 Duty/3 day worth 10 hrs should pay AT LEAST 15. (or in my survey/dreamworld... 16.5!) Suddenly either they would go away or you could do a 30-33 hr/5 day.

But, hey... math.

 

[jynxyjoe]

I recently told a captain the most important thing in any contract was scope, and not rates.

He informed me I was young and short sighted.

So it's going well then?

 

[Old Pete]

It’s usually the other way around. Needless to say you’re 100% correct


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so you're saying he's short and young sighted?

 

[ZapBrannigan]

It’s usually the other way around. Needless to say you’re 100% correct


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so you're saying he's short and young sighted?

No, I am saying that his Captain is extremely uneducated about this profession. If I were a gambling man, I would put money on him being prior military and at his very first airline job.

JTrain is 100% correct. Scope is THE single most important provision in the CBA. It shouldn’t be bartered at any price.


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[jtrain609]

so you're saying he's short and young sighted?

That's my wife.

 

[Kekistan]

I recently told a captain the most important thing in any contract was scope, and not rates.

He informed me I was young and short sighted.

Your Captain was right. The most important things for a Captain are pay rates and retirement. Scope is for junior pilots who are scared of furloughs, but with a proper flow thru agreement with flow back provisions as RJ Captains, the fear of furloughs can be mitigated.