Air India plane hits wall on takeoff

“Allegiant Air.... making your 7 hour nightmare on Southwest with the people of WalMart feel like 1973 Pan Am first class by comparison...”

Somehow and I didn’t even know it was possible a few of us got sent TDY on them. The slogans we came up with got progressively more and more spectacular as that ordeal dragged on. We should have written them all down.


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Allegiant does fly military charter flights, along with other mainline and charter operators. Or do you mean you got sent TDY as ticketed regular pax?
 
Allegiant does fly military charter flights, along with other mainline and charter operators. Or do you mean you got sent TDY as ticketed regular pax?

Ticketed Pax.

Like I said it was less weird of a process and more I didn’t realize they were even in consideration amongst government rate airlines. I mean I’ve been on or seen some bad seat terribly mismatched legs fights to a TDY location before but damn.

Only thing I can’t think of that weird was the guy I know whose DTS clerk put him on a plane that went from LAX to Narita... then to Guam to then turn around again to go to Thailand. All that to avoid paying him a hotel in travel.


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Ticketed Pax.

Like I said it was less weird of a process and more I didn’t realize they were even in consideration amongst government rate airlines. I mean I’ve been on or seen some bad seat terribly mismatched legs fights to a TDY location before but damn.

Only thing I can’t think of that weird was the guy I know whose DTS clerk put him on a plane that went from LAX to Narita... then to Guam to then turn around again to go to Thailand. All that to avoid paying him a hotel in travel.


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I'm a grown man. Nobody will ever do DTS for me. This is a great reason.

“Allegiant Air.... because a Ford Tri-motor full of poultry flown by Mongolians wasn’t available.”




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Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I really dig Indiana Jones. I'll rewatch the three originals without limits. My sons enjoy them, too.
 
I'm a grown man. Nobody will ever do DTS for me. This is a great reason.



Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I really dig Indiana Jones. I'll rewatch the three originals without limits. My sons enjoy them, too.

Conventional Active Army, where some moron Specialist at Brigade changes all your reservations because it’s no skin off their back .... problems I thankfully no longer have
 
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Is it bad that even as someone who is pretty serious about aviation safety, I laugh my ass(you can totally say ass on here) off at all these occurrences?

We often trace these airline crew blunders back to culture, but at what point does culture have anything to do with professional 2 pilots, in any sized aircraft, plowing thru a wall and approach lights and proceeding across the Arabian Sea like nothing happened? Just amazing. But not very shocking anymore, sadly.
 
We often trace these airline crew blunders back to culture, but at what point does culture have anything to do with professional 2 pilots, in any sized aircraft, plowing thru a wall and approach lights and proceeding across the Arabian Sea like nothing happened? Just amazing. But not very shocking anymore, sadly.

Well, there was the Delta 810, the 767 that lost both engines on takeoff out of LAX at 1600' due to the Captain pulling the fuel handles to cutoff while responding to a caution light regarding the engines, shutting down both engines. The jet descended dead-stick down to about 600' above the Pacific Ocean before the crew managed to restart both engines. Then..... they continued the flight to CVG.

Granted, this was 1987 and one of a number of situations that had the FAA come in and investigate Delta's flight operations, specifically their training and checking sections as well as their CRM. Delta was ordered to adopt Western Airlines' CRM model in the meantime as one of the many findings and orders from the FAA investigation.
 
Well, there was the Delta 810, the 767 that lost both engines on takeoff out of LAX at 1600' due to the Captain pulling the fuel handles to cutoff while responding to a caution light regarding the engines, shutting down both engines. The jet descended dead-stick down to about 600' above the Pacific Ocean before the crew managed to restart both engines. Then..... they continued the flight to CVG.

Granted, this was 1987 and one of a number of situations that had the FAA come in and investigate Delta's flight operations, specifically their training and checking sections as well as their CRM. Delta was ordered to adopt Western Airlines' CRM model in the meantime as one of the many findings and orders from the FAA investigation.
Indeed! And 30 years later, Delta is a leading example of a massive airline with a great safety record(I think the LGA over run was the only very serious incident in the last 10 years or so).

There were a lot of dumb USA blunders over the years, but I feel like these days the stories involving US airlines are more wild overnights/drunk crew, and the Asia/India/Middle East carriers are having far more plowing into obstructions then crossing open water stories.
 
On a serious note, every pound added to an airliner must justify its existence.

Yeah? If that were true, the 300lb lard-ass in the middle seat should be paying 76% more for his ass privileges than I should.

I'm suddenly machinating about commencing service as Skinny Air, a niche carrier offering lower fares for the fit crowd. After cogitating for 10 seconds, it's clear the name wouldn't work as most folks don't want non-stop service to Mogadishu. Fit Air comes to mind, but that has connotations of being wedged into some sort of aviation rumble seat.
 
Yeah? If that were true, the 300lb lard-ass in the middle seat should be paying 76% more for his ass privileges than I should.

I'm suddenly machinating about commencing service as Skinny Air, a niche carrier offering lower fares for the fit crowd. After cogitating for 10 seconds, it's clear the name wouldn't work as most folks don't want non-stop service to Mogadishu. Fit Air comes to mind, but that has connotations of being wedged into some sort of aviation rumble seat.

Starting an airline catering to a dwindling demographic sounds like a bad idea!
 
I’m goinf to start one that caters to obese people. I’m going to call it Trans Fats Airlines.

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Yeah? If that were true, the 300lb lard-ass in the middle seat should be paying 76% more for his ass privileges than I should.

I'm suddenly machinating about commencing service as Skinny Air, a niche carrier offering lower fares for the fit crowd. After cogitating for 10 seconds, it's clear the name wouldn't work as most folks don't want non-stop service to Mogadishu. Fit Air comes to mind, but that has connotations of being wedged into some sort of aviation rumble seat.

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