Aerial Survey (about that time again)

Hello Fellow Aviators,

I had sent my resume to Air America last week and today they called me to setup a preliminary interview for this week. The guy told me once you clear the preliminary interview, then we will invite you to daytona beach to our place and you have to go through a written, oral and a flight check. Since I dont know alot about this company, anyone on this forum who has worked for them in the past or currently can give me any feedback or assistance about them as far as the pay, housing options since I am out of town, and what is the best way to prepare for the interview if given a chance to go there. Also, what will be the preliminary phone interview like. I would appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
 
ilsbird said:
Hello Fellow Aviators,

I had sent my resume to Air America last week and today they called me to setup a preliminary interview for this week. The guy told me once you clear the preliminary interview, then we will invite you to daytona beach to our place and you have to go through a written, oral and a flight check. Since I dont know alot about this company, anyone on this forum who has worked for them in the past or currently can give me any feedback or assistance about them as far as the pay, housing options since I am out of town, and what is the best way to prepare for the interview if given a chance to go there. Also, what will be the preliminary phone interview like. I would appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
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Sent you a PM, also refer to the link below from last year

http://forums.jetcareers.com/jobs-available-members-only/112427-aerial-survey-3.html
 
ilsbird said:
Hello Fellow Aviators,

I had sent my resume to Air America last week and today they called me to setup a preliminary interview for this week. The guy told me once you clear the preliminary interview, then we will invite you to daytona beach to our place and you have to go through a written, oral and a flight check. Since I dont know alot about this company, anyone on this forum who has worked for them in the past or currently can give me any feedback or assistance about them as far as the pay, housing options since I am out of town, and what is the best way to prepare for the interview if given a chance to go there. Also, what will be the preliminary phone interview like. I would appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
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No need to relocate. They will provide you with a hotel if they invite you for an interview.
 
ilsbird said:
Hello Fellow Aviators,

I had sent my resume to Air America last week and today they called me to setup a preliminary interview for this week. The guy told me once you clear the preliminary interview, then we will invite you to daytona beach to our place and you have to go through a written, oral and a flight check. Since I dont know alot about this company, anyone on this forum who has worked for them in the past or currently can give me any feedback or assistance about them as far as the pay, housing options since I am out of town, and what is the best way to prepare for the interview if given a chance to go there. Also, what will be the preliminary phone interview like. I would appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
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based on this post....I would suspect you need to look into the company to know what your getting yourself into.

search the forums on the interwebs
 
ilsbird said:
Hello Fellow Aviators,

I had sent my resume to Air America last week and today they called me to setup a preliminary interview for this week. The guy told me once you clear the preliminary interview, then we will invite you to daytona beach to our place and you have to go through a written, oral and a flight check. Since I dont know alot about this company, anyone on this forum who has worked for them in the past or currently can give me any feedback or assistance about them as far as the pay, housing options since I am out of town, and what is the best way to prepare for the interview if given a chance to go there. Also, what will be the preliminary phone interview like. I would appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
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Same here. I have my phone interview on Thursday. Fingers crossed. If you have yours before mine, please share your experiences, I will do the same. I'm a new member, I can't PM. My email is sandrich@gmail.com Thanks
 
I'm going to guess that Landcare's pay is the same, sub 400 for the first few weeks then 400 a week after that. They use to pay more before '08 then everyone was leaving for the airlines. To change things and keep people they cut pay then gave a bonus at the end of the season of 2,500 or close to that (’08 reference). They also use to do the 25 a day if you shared your room, now they have some way I'm not sure of to calculate your room bonus. I hear it's based on your performance, hotel cost, daily paperwork etc. Hope that helps and maybe someone else can clear this up.
 
i dont mean to change the subject, but would it be possible to have your wife come along with you, and share the same room?? assuming your wife is cool and wants to travel around with you? i think that would be kinda fun.
 
ilsbird said:
Hello Fellow Aviators,

I had sent my resume to Air America last week and today they called me to setup a preliminary interview for this week. The guy told me once you clear the preliminary interview, then we will invite you to daytona beach to our place and you have to go through a written, oral and a flight check. Since I dont know alot about this company, anyone on this forum who has worked for them in the past or currently can give me any feedback or assistance about them as far as the pay, housing options since I am out of town, and what is the best way to prepare for the interview if given a chance to go there. Also, what will be the preliminary phone interview like. I would appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
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Just went through not too long ago. The preliminary interview is really no trouble. A couple of what if questions- situational based questions, things like that. Have you ever had an emergency, what would you do if..... Interviewing this month- decisions to be made next month. G/S starts in October, you must if invited pass g/s, oral, and flight test in order to be offered a position. Hope it all goes well for you.
 
robofos said:
i dont mean to change the subject, but would it be possible to have your wife come along with you, and share the same room?? assuming your wife is cool and wants to travel around with you? i think that would be kinda fun.
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I can tell you that Pictometry has made it very clear to me that they do not like that. They can not dictate specific policy of each of the vendors but they can and will make it known what they do not approve of and it would not be in the best interest of a vendor to ignore the preferences of your only client. DWAS did not have a specific policy against taking a spouse on the road full time until Pictometry found out it was happening with one of our pilots. Our current policy is that pilots can have spouses/families visit on the road and even fly with the pilot with prior management approval but traveling full-time with a spouse is not allowed.
 
Out of respect for not adding to the assumed flood of PMs to the various operators I ask this in the open. I'm not one to cut and run, I likely would want long term. That being said, what are the realistic chances for one with 135 IFR times for these positions?

I for one don't have the SJS gene and I prefer this kind of flying. I have lived for extended periods of time on the road in a past life. I am debt free and have a willingness to travel.
 
RICHARD5 said:
Out of respect for not adding to the assumed flood of PMs to the various operators I ask this in the open. I'm not one to cut and run, I likely would want long term. That being said, what are the realistic chances for one with 135 IFR times for these positions?

I for one don't have the SJS gene and I prefer this kind of flying. I have lived for extended periods of time on the road in a past life. I am debt free and have a willingness to travel.
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almost zero...unless they have changed who they hire...they want 250-500 hr pilots...

...unless you can prove you wont bail (I know landcare had current pilots that had well over 3000 hrs , but they were hired 3-4 years ago)
 
Proving I won't do something (leave before end of season)...that's like attempting to prove a negative. All I have is my word. I would even be willing to sign a promissory agreement...to put my money where my mouth is. I suppose the way past this is to not prove I would not leave but to prove I would stay. And all I can think of to prove that is day by day. And at the end of the season I could say, "See, I told you."

Knowing how to take care of aircraft, having real world experience, etc is worthless in this pursuit.
 
I got hired last year with 1600 TT. I, like you, have no desire to fly for the airlines. So that's what I told him. Plus, NSA makes you sign a contract saying you'll pay the company $2500 if you leave early. I think we had 3 or 4 leave. Personally I think if you sign a contract you honor it, but if the boss makes you pay $2500 to leave then he can't really complain. He made $10k just off people leaving and it certainly doesn't cost that to replace 4 pilots. I'd almost hope people left under that agreement. Oh well.
 
RICHARD5 said:
Out of respect for not adding to the assumed flood of PMs to the various operators I ask this in the open. I'm not one to cut and run, I likely would want long term. That being said, what are the realistic chances for one with 135 IFR times for these positions?

I for one don't have the SJS gene and I prefer this kind of flying. I have lived for extended periods of time on the road in a past life. I am debt free and have a willingness to travel.
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You should apply NSA asap, they started screening people atleast week ago, but you could probably still get a look. There is aperture and keystone too, I think keystone has a really good reputation, and pays a really good wage-- never worked so that is all second hand info. I do think they make you spend a season sitting in back operating the camera equipment though.
 
CFIT99 said:
almost zero...unless they have changed who they hire...they want 250-500 hr pilots...

...unless you can prove you wont bail (I know landcare had current pilots that had well over 3000 hrs , but they were hired 3-4 years ago)
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This is not accurate with respect to DWAS hiring practices. In the first place, we can not hire any pilot with less than 500tt per insurance reqs. The sweet spot is 500 to 1000 but I look at each potential pilot's individual situation. I definitely don't want to hire a pilot that has a high probability of bailing on me mid season but I actually prefer more experienced pilots. The lower time guys are generally more motivated but the higher time guys tend to be more conservative and disciplined. There are exceptions. Ive had low time guys that turned out to be stellar employees and higher time guys that were barely phoning it in. It's a matter
of finding a balance. Its more about personality with me. I'm looking for guys(or girls) who will be happy doing this kind of work, who can get along with others, who have a good work ethic, who can follow instructions, have common sense
and who I can trust. I'll be accepting resumes starting next week so I'll post the job then.
 
pilotbry said:
This is not accurate with respect to DWAS hiring practices. In the first place, we can not hire any pilot with less than 500tt per insurance reqs. The sweet spot is 500 to 1000 but I look at each potential pilot's individual situation. I definitely don't want to hire a pilot that has a high probability of bailing on me mid season but I actually prefer more experienced pilots. The lower time guys are generally more motivated but the higher time guys tend to be more conservative and disciplined. There are exceptions. Ive had low time guys that turned out to be stellar employees and higher time guys that were barely phoning it in. It's a matter
of finding a balance. Its more about personality with me. I'm looking for guys(or girls) who will be happy doing this kind of work, who can get along with others, who have a good work ethic, who can follow instructions, have common sense
and who I can trust. I'll be accepting resumes starting next week so I'll post the job then.
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thanks for the update, when i worked survey about 3 years ago...above 700 was rare
 
CFIT99 said:
thanks for the update, when i worked survey about 3 years ago...above 700 was rare
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Oh yeah - 3+ years ago the hiring environment was totally different. Most pilots with 700+ hours were already employed. Turnover was very high in aerial mapping so the pool to draw from were basically the wet commercial to 500 hour guys. I got hired 3 and a half years ago with 400 hours then the following season the insurance mins went to 500 because there were so many 500+ pilots out of work. Since regionals are hiring low-timers again I expect to have fewer resumes this year but last year I generally had 40 qualified applicants at any given time for 9 jobs. As I say, I'm only speaking for myself and my company.
 
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