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JaceTheAce
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Yeah, check out the UND forum.
The program is a descent Part 141 environment. Very new well-maintained aircraft, excellent resources, excellent instructors. Some instructors are not good teachers, but most are very good.
Living here? It really depends on where you are from. That will determine whether or not you can stand living here. If you are from a civilized city like where I am from, you will consider this place virtually uninhabitable.
The program is a descent Part 141 environment. Very new well-maintained aircraft, excellent resources, excellent instructors. Some instructors are not good teachers, but most are very good.
Living here? It really depends on where you are from. That will determine whether or not you can stand living here. If you are from a civilized city like where I am from, you will consider this place virtually uninhabitable.
CaptainChris87
New Member
yeah dude check out the UND thread just go to forums.Jetcareers and scroll down under collegiate aviation. I suggest you spend time reading and going through them. and or look through the lav and see some of our threads go down there haha.
I know a few people that switched from riddle to UND and vis versa. Id have to say they have quaility training from all the pictures and comments I've read. If you really want to know about it go on the UND thread and ask some of the students there. Ususally they are the most honest unless they work there.
Ill be the first to say riddle has as many pro's as con's. The largest con being the price. The main pro I can think of would have to be the professors (most of them, others can go jump off a cliff) and the quaility of the aircraft.
You in high school now?
Ill be the first to say riddle has as many pro's as con's. The largest con being the price. The main pro I can think of would have to be the professors (most of them, others can go jump off a cliff) and the quaility of the aircraft.
You in high school now?
caliginousface
Frank N. Beans
JaceTheAce said:
Yeah i've heard it's better than the ascent 141 program.
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CaptainChris87
New Member
caliginousface said:Yeah i've heard it's better than the ascent 141 program.
Agree on that however the Cons ive experienced, are delays, this school drags when it comes to getting things done and taken care of. I already passed my ground still in my 4th week waiting for my temporary certificate because my Ground school instructor is no where to be contacted and UND is not trying hard enough to reach him. Getting a stage pilot can take a whle especially if you UN sat youll be on the same stage check for days...weeks due to review flights CFI avilability, YOUR avilability, weathering, and stage pilot aviability. I have gotten a pritty bad part of the stick. I almost in many times did not finish my ppl and came darn close several times in failing ground school and then I wouldnt get my lisence id have to re take 102. everytime you un sat a stage, oral and flight its -2 form your ground school. but the pros are what is stated above, and people are awesome here friendly and open but the con is the wait and the dragging of time. its horrible in my opnion. and a lot of the female CFI's here got hried because they slept with someone on the hiring board or more than likely another male cocky CFI. other than that yes I would recommend this school but also look into ari-ben, ATP, Riddle, local FBO's with good mx and a ncie fleet.
CaptainChris87
New Member
S40_flyer said:
to Caffine: I was saying I completly agree with that statment above, and then I offered the cons I experienced with this school, I apologize that UND has not showered me and also not everyone with its fountain of love as you have bathed, and drenched upon. it IS an excellent school or else I would not have gone here for 1 full year and back it up in the chats and say I am proud to go here. but the CONS are my soft spots, and I will take no more.
but Adhil yes I agree ask others even employees everyone here is for the most part friendly and do want you to suceed except some CFI's and a few staff people but the 85 percent do. I have met a lot of awesome and developed life-long remembering friendships here at UND im sure you will too as well as get a good feel of an aviation community and state of the art facilities. but as I said processing important documents you getting taken care of and you finishing your stuff and the way things run here is dragging or as they say "dreyyging" (northern mid west accent). and what I said about the affair part is truth, whats wrong with expressing truth? the only fault is if denying it and covering it.
CaptainChris87
New Member
Adhil said:
http://www.avit.und.edu/f1_Home/index.php
all there. they estimate 46,995 ppl-CFI-I with a CRJ sim, thats a rough estimate still expet to pay for tuition, ground school, and a bit more for reviews and such. its dispersed evenly for 3-4 years assuming you finish successfully within the semester in time.
give it a shot if this place attracts you as I said our facilities are awesome, especially our aerospace department. it attracted me here and others as well. theres numbers on that link FAQ's, fleet, etc..its mostly there if not call 1-800 call und. anymore questions feel free to talk to me or any member on here as Dugie will be of big help but its been a few years or so since he was last here.
P.S. Dugie..........Tuugrul is tracking you down......
but when i asked for more information from UND they sent me the programme cost for bachelor of science in aeronautics as:
Air Traffic Control
Survey of Flight or $12,900
Private Pilot certificate/simulator $15,020
Commercial Aviation Private / Commercial / Instrument / Multi Engine / CFI / CFII,/ATC Simulator/Altitude Chamber Lab/CRJ 200 FTD/FAA Written $ 52,626
Flight Education
Private / Commercial / Instrument / Multi Engine / CFI / CFII / MEI/ATC Simulator/FAA Written $ 53,901
Aviation Systems Management
Survey of Flight or $ 6,150
Private Pilot Certificate/FAA Written $8,270
this shows that the total cost comes for around $144000.
by the way i dont no much about flight training, so i dunno which ones i should take to get my rating to be an airline transport pilot.
could you'll please tell me whether i should take the whole programme or do i have to take only a part?
pls help
Air Traffic Control
Survey of Flight or $12,900
Private Pilot certificate/simulator $15,020
Commercial Aviation Private / Commercial / Instrument / Multi Engine / CFI / CFII,/ATC Simulator/Altitude Chamber Lab/CRJ 200 FTD/FAA Written $ 52,626
Flight Education
Private / Commercial / Instrument / Multi Engine / CFI / CFII / MEI/ATC Simulator/FAA Written $ 53,901
Aviation Systems Management
Survey of Flight or $ 6,150
Private Pilot Certificate/FAA Written $8,270
this shows that the total cost comes for around $144000.
by the way i dont no much about flight training, so i dunno which ones i should take to get my rating to be an airline transport pilot.
could you'll please tell me whether i should take the whole programme or do i have to take only a part?
pls help
frog_flyer
FredFlyer
15k for a private!
phew!
phew!
Tommay85
Well-Known Member
If business interests you, I'd consider the aviation management degree. ONLY DO THIS if business interests you. I tried it as an "easy" backup plan only to find that my complete lack of interest made the curriculum unbarable. It didn't help that the business school, at least the part I experianced, was just terrible.
Also, if you want a degree in aeronautical science, don't let people talk you out of it just because they think it's "worthless". There's some people on these boards that believe the only way you can become smart and well rounded is to study philosophy or phsyc or something like that. It's crap. There are ways to educate yourself and become well rounded on your own. I'm not going to dwell into that much more since it shouldn't be neccessary. I might have to come back to this though since I'm sure someones gona come in here and run a big rant about how aviation degrees are the devil or something. The bottom line here is, don't get an aviation degree because you need one, because you don't. Get one because you want one. Study what interests you and do your flying on the side if need be, even if it doesn't include going to UND.
Anyway, I am vary satisfied with my experience at UND thus far. It's everything I expected it to be, and more. Like mentioned before, everything is top notch. Great facilities and staff. Clean, well maintained airplanes and simulators. Heck even an altitude chamber. It's some of the little things that make UND better than some of the others. You'll find out what those are if you attend here.
The ONLY problems I've ever had were started by myself. Unsatting a stage check, temporarily running out of money in my flight account, getting "sick"(hehe), etc... Sure, Weather and flight ops issues will agravate the situation, and you'll get flights cancelled more times than you can count. Everyone does, but as long as you keep yourself in check and know your stuff, you'll breeze through this program no problem.
How's that for a long rambling post at 2 in the morning?
Also, if you want a degree in aeronautical science, don't let people talk you out of it just because they think it's "worthless". There's some people on these boards that believe the only way you can become smart and well rounded is to study philosophy or phsyc or something like that. It's crap. There are ways to educate yourself and become well rounded on your own. I'm not going to dwell into that much more since it shouldn't be neccessary. I might have to come back to this though since I'm sure someones gona come in here and run a big rant about how aviation degrees are the devil or something. The bottom line here is, don't get an aviation degree because you need one, because you don't. Get one because you want one. Study what interests you and do your flying on the side if need be, even if it doesn't include going to UND.
Anyway, I am vary satisfied with my experience at UND thus far. It's everything I expected it to be, and more. Like mentioned before, everything is top notch. Great facilities and staff. Clean, well maintained airplanes and simulators. Heck even an altitude chamber. It's some of the little things that make UND better than some of the others. You'll find out what those are if you attend here.
The ONLY problems I've ever had were started by myself. Unsatting a stage check, temporarily running out of money in my flight account, getting "sick"(hehe), etc... Sure, Weather and flight ops issues will agravate the situation, and you'll get flights cancelled more times than you can count. Everyone does, but as long as you keep yourself in check and know your stuff, you'll breeze through this program no problem.
How's that for a long rambling post at 2 in the morning?
Tommay85
Well-Known Member
Those are the individual 4 year programs under the aeronautical science degree. You'll either do airtraffic control(if you decide to be a controller), commercial aviation, flight education(which is centered more around flight instruction), aviation mananagement or airport manangement(not listed in your post), or systems management. You'll spend about 80,000ish total.Adhil said:
Also, dont worry about the jumping banalama(which apparently what that thing is called) in my avatar. You can take me seriously.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
CaptainChris87 said:
:whatever:
OMG I gotta agree with caffeine. That was the most assinine post ever. My god man,my god learn to spell and develop a sentence your in college for godsake!
Your a really angry lil boy aren't you?
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
UAL747400 said:Those are the individual 4 year programs under the aeronautical science degree. You'll either do airtraffic control(if you decide to be a controller), commercial aviation, flight education(which is centered more around flight instruction), aviation mananagement or airport manangement(not listed in your post), or systems management. You'll spend about 80,000ish total.
Also, dont worry about the jumping banalama(which apparently what that thing is called) in my avatar. You can take me seriously.
I have heard nothing but good things about UND. But $80k is a lot of debt and just a lil shy of ERAU.
Does UND allow you to get your ratings other places say ATP or your local FBO and recieve college credit for said ratings? Or do they only give you credit for your PPL?
$15k for a PPL is too much!
Stone Cold
Well-Known Member
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Sorry Max...had to help you out on your critique of somebody else's grammar and spelling.:insane: