AAWW to merge Southern Air into Atlas Air, eyes single AOC

To be fair I know basically nothing about Southern...

But Atlas acquired them for $110 million according to that article. How does an airline with five 777s, not to mention other aircraft, get sold for only $110 million?

Hope everything goes smoothly for employees across the board.
 
CS0290 said:
We'll see how it plays out. I've heard moving to CVG was a possibility which would be great for us at 9S.


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CPZ9900 said:
hopefully.
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CVG? A decent place to live?

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The jet hub...?! OHIO!?!!

 
For the southern guys here.... If they do decide to Move HQ up north, how would that be received by the Southern guys? Willing to relocate or no?
 
JetCrew said:
For the southern guys here.... If they do decide to Move HQ up north, how would that be received by the Southern guys? Willing to relocate or no?
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I'd be surprised if anyone (including me) went up there. There are a lot of Comair folk working there now that have been in the area all their lives. But if it came down to moving or losing the job...I guess New York isn't THAT bad.


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For the southern guys here.... If they do decide to Move HQ up north, how would that be received by the Southern guys? Willing to relocate or no?
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I was a Norwalk guy at 9S and moved with them to CVG. I loved it out there---NYC salary and NKY cost of living. I would be surprised to see many of the CVG folks move to NY. It's basically Comair 2.0 on Turfway.


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PlaneFan82 said:
I was a Norwalk guy at 9S and moved with them to CVG. I loved it out there---NYC salary and NKY cost of living. I would be surprised to see many of the CVG folks move to NY. It's basically Comair 2.0 on Turfway.


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Would have been nice to get the pay you had in CT now lol. Now it would just be nice to keep my job in CVG.


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My opinion is keep in CVG for the tax breaks and close proximity to the DHL operation. As we all know what we never really know and sometimes decisions made don't make sense. Although there is a good chance it could stay in Westchester County. I've been to their operations center and "offices" as its a big setup and layout. It's in a Chase owned building I believe and they must pay a ton to rent out. That being said if the guys in CVG move to Westchester County it would be an upgrade for sure. Just my .02 cents.
 
PlaneFan82 said:
It's basically Comair 2.0 on Turfway
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I've always wondered what happened to those Comair SOC folks. I was an FA there from 07-11. Alot of crews are now at B6. The DO at my current shop is a former OH guy as well.
 
Please let us know how things turn out with the location decision of the combined SOC. Odd, that with the announcement of combining certificates, that Atlas would not have announced a decision on this. So many people in CVG have been kept in a delicate state of uncertainty about their livelihoods before (ex Comair, Astar, etc.). Though the company might find it best (from a concern of retaining operational manpower approaching a move) until the certificate merger is 6 months or so until completion, I hope so very much that everyone involved, be it in White Plains or CVG, has an answer as soon as possible. Much love to the good folks in CVG I had the pleasure of working with. Same to ex-SOO at HPN.

Regarding the prospect of moving closer to DHL Americas Hub, which I find to be a somewhat insignificant "benefit" in this day and age, I have a hard time believing the much larger company will relocate to CVG even if the cost of living/salary is lower and tax breaks more plentiful. Southern took the opportunity to move for these stated monetary reasons with justification that it was necessary under bankruptcy restructuring.

The unstated reality is also that the move was a somewhat foregone conclusion when Southern brought on the former Comair COO while in Connecticut. This is not typical airline rumor speculation. Too many sources, including those who weren't employed at the time by SOO and overheard very revealing conversations, have verified the intent. An intent which was bolstered very shortly after his hiring by bringing on many ex Comair management types still living in Northern Kentucky and made no effort to relocate to Connecticut.

While it sure is possible that Atlas would relocate their company headquarters, assets, property, and larger workforce who have well-established roots within their present region - I wouldn't consider it probable.
 
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JetCrew said:
I've always wondered what happened to those Comair SOC folks. I was an FA there from 07-11. Alot of crews are now at B6. The DO at my current shop is a former OH guy as well.
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I think some ex-Comair folks stayed on with Delta Private Jets...which is what they use the ex-Comair CRJ's for that they didn't get rid of. The old Comair dispatch office is now the DPJ dispatch office, I've heard. But yeah, makes logical sense that a lot of the ex-Comair SOC people moved to Southern Air once they relocated to CVG.
 
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