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Folks have said the same thing about MEM, CVG, and CLE.......
I'm talking clt airport as part of usairways. It's by far the largest operation , both express and mainline. MEM, CVG, CLE we're never the largest parts of the respective other carriers. They were all primarily RJ hubs for the past decade. I won't be buying in clt right now, not because I think it'll close, but because I think it could shrink enough to where its so senior that the benefit of living in base is limited. No one really knows the future.
 
Am I reading that right?

You want redeye flying?

They don't go really junior?

Redeyes and All Nighters are two completely different things here.

Redeyes are normally 3-day west coast trips, 1 leg out and 1 leg back with around a 24-hour layover somewhere.

Our All Nighters are officially called On Duty All Night trips. You guys may know them as stand-ups, high-speeds, naps, etc. They're fairly senior here, especially in CLT.
 
Do y'all have a min day for those Redeyes? Also, do you have other red eye flying in three or four day trips?
 
Redeyes and All Nighters are two completely different things here.

Redeyes are normally 3-day west coast trips, 1 leg out and 1 leg back with around a 24-hour layover somewhere.

Our All Nighters are officially called On Duty All Night trips. You guys may know them as stand-ups, high-speeds, naps, etc. They're fairly senior here, especially in CLT.

Oh, gotcha. I had seen them referred to before as ODAL or whatever it was, but I figured "all nighter" always still meant redeye everywhere. That makes more sense.
 
Do y'all have a min day for those Redeyes? Also, do you have other red eye flying in three or four day trips?

No, the East contract does not have min day for redeyes, which is why we have a ton of them for the summer.

Our contract is written such that redeyes are to be pure trips only. They cannot be part of any other pairing. That's not to say that we don't have some redeyes that do PHL-LAX-PHX, then one leg back to PHL or PHL-PHX, then PHX-BWI, deadhead to PHL. However, you don't do a normal 3 or 4 day trip that ends with a redeye.

And before you say it, I know, I know, United is superior in every way.
 
No, the East contract does not have min day for redeyes, which is why we have a ton of them for the summer.

Our contract is written such that redeyes are to be pure trips only. They cannot be part of any other pairing. That's not to say that we don't have some redeyes that do PHL-LAX-PHX, then one leg back to PHL or PHL-PHX, then PHX-BWI, deadhead to PHL. However, you don't do a normal 3 or 4 day trip that ends with a redeye.

And before you say it, I know, I know, United is superior in every way.

Minus in turning a profit ;)
 
I would hope so, since the West gets 15 hours for one...hence the enormous number of redeyes added to the summer schedule.

Do you know what wording is for that????I've only seen "average daily credit" and I don't know what that means. I assume 5 hours the first day and 5 hours the last day equals 13:20 ???
 
Do you know what wording is for that????I've only seen "average daily credit" and I don't know what that means. I assume 5 hours the first day and 5 hours the last day equals 13:20 ???

Somehow, there's something in LOA 93 and how the trips are built that don't yield a 15 hour redeye.
 
No, the East contract does not have min day for redeyes, which is why we have a ton of them for the summer.

Our contract is written such that redeyes are to be pure trips only. They cannot be part of any other pairing. That's not to say that we don't have some redeyes that do PHL-LAX-PHX, then one leg back to PHL or PHL-PHX, then PHX-BWI, deadhead to PHL. However, you don't do a normal 3 or 4 day trip that ends with a redeye.

And before you say it, I know, I know, United is superior in every way.

Ahhhhhhh, I was just asking as we have a lot mixed into our four day trips.
 
Ahhhhhhh, I was just asking as we have a lot mixed into our four day trips.

I've heard that. We had a few of those when I was an F/O at XJT. Doesn't seem safe to me screwing with your body clock like that. We had 4-days that got into the west coast at around 9 am, had a day layover and then did the redeye that night. Is that what yours are like?
 
We have some like that. We also have some where the red-eye is in the middle of the trip and then some where the red-eye is the last leg home.
 
We have some like that. We also have some where the red-eye is in the middle of the trip and then some where the red-eye is the last leg home.

Ouch. That is one good thing that was held over from Contract 98.
 
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