AA Hiring

autosave36 said:
It will serve you well to remember that Pilots, Dispatchers, ATC, Rampers, Ops Agents, Gate Agents etc are all human.
And as good as they are at their jobs, (I really only have met a few dispatchers so far that I'd consider outright "bad")
we all make the occasional mistake. Tafs change, Alternates get missed. The weather may get there early. You may just
not even be on your game for a 5-10 minute (or hey maybe longer) window. And that's why we double check each other.
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Sometimes you have 13 releases to do in 50 minutes and you miss 1 line. Other times you are on your Monday on a 3am shift, you only got 3 hours of sleep because no matter what you tried, you just were not tired and you start nodding off midway through your shift. Still other times you have 1 guy with a mechanical enroute, 2 or 3 of your phone lines ringing with pilots waning to talk to you about something, 3 releases due and the normal TAF updates for your 10 flights in the air and 15 you have already planned are coming out and 1 of the airports forecasts BKN 019 when the previous one said SCT 025 without any indication they would forecast down. So yes, with all that going on, there WILL be mistakes.
 
Squirrel said:
Fine, Supposedly AA has the highest workload for flightplanning as far as majors go. Or so that's what I have heard. Dispatching is far more than pumping releases out.
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AA does not currently view the Dispatcher role as beneficial or important, despite exercising operational control over each flight and playing a big role in the airlines 2nd largest expense, fuel. Dispatch is viewed as a cost liability that is only here to fill FAR requirements. They want to keep the cost as low as possible by having a high number of flights on each desk and because of that, Dispatch quality can suffer. Instead they have hired tons and tons of managers that do not do much for the operation. They lack Dispatch and Operations experience and create asinine policies that impede on job scope and duties.
 
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oktex88 said:
AA does not currently view the Dispatcher role as beneficial or important, despite exercising operational control over each flight and playing a big role in the airlines 2nd largest expense, fuel. Dispatch is viewed as a cost liability that is only here to fill FAR requirements. They want to keep the cost as low as possible by having a high number of flights on each desk and because of that, Dispatch quality can suffer. Instead they have hired tons and tons of managers that do not do much for the operation. They lack Dispatch and Operations experience and create asinine policies that impede on job scope and duties.
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wonder what will happen when a plane crashes and ntsb finds out they were running on fumes due to an AA fuel policy.
 
757Geek said:
^^^^ Isn’t this pretty much true of every airline out there?
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Not really, most of the places I have worked the workload has been decent. Most flightplans I do is 25 to 30 on a shift domestic. 10 for international on a hour hour shift.
 
Squirrel said:
Not really, most of the places I have worked the workload has been decent. Most flightplans I do is 25 to 30 on a shift domestic. 10 for international on a hour hour shift.
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I was speaking more of the miserly habits and coming up with a whole bunch of policies by hiring a ton of middle managers. I guess I should have been more specific. Personally I don’t mind the higher workloads...most days.
 
Altimeter said:
What planet do you live on? Seriously?
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Im just saying that fuel to most airlines is the biggest cost and they would do anything to lower the cost, if 121.639 didnt exist, there would be flights running barely the fuel needed. Sadly this happens in the part 91 world too, every year there are reports of planes having off airport landings due to them literally running the tanks dry or stretching their fuel reserves to the limits.
 
A1TAPE said:
Im just saying that fuel to most airlines is the biggest cost and they would do anything to lower the cost, if 121.639 didnt exist, there would be flights running barely the fuel needed. Sadly this happens in the part 91 world too, every year there are reports of planes having off airport landings due to them literally running the tanks dry or stretching their fuel reserves to the limits.
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If the FAA did away with the 45 min reserve I'm not aware of a single dispatcher who would ever release flights planned to land with emergency fuel or any PIC that would accept such a ridiculous/dangerous fuel load no matter the airline's policy.
 
oktex88 said:
instead they have hired tons and tons of managers that do not do much for the operation. They lack Dispatch and Operations experience and create asinine policies that impede on our job scope and duties.
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Well that's pretty much everywhere.

A1TAPE said:
wonder what will happen when a plane crashes and ntsb finds out they were running on fumes due to an AA fuel policy.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Altimeter said:
What planet do you live on? Seriously?
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In all honesty I think they're referencing an Avianca crash from like 1970 when a DC-8(707?) flamed out while circling to land at the then Idlewild. But uh. Yeah that's unless they're not trolling. I'm REALLY giving the benefit of the doubt though, aren't I..
 
Burrito said:
Well that's pretty much everywhere.



Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



In all honesty I think they're referencing an Avianca crash from like 1970 when a DC-8(707?) flamed out while circling to land at the then Idlewild. But uh. Yeah that's unless they're not trolling. I'm REALLY giving the benefit of the doubt though, aren't I..
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Yea I was refering to Avianca. That and the Comlumbia charter crash from 2016 that, while in part caused by a bad release due to fuel requirements beyond the Avros max endurance, was also casued due to bad circumstances that caused the plane to literally fly the tanks dry.
 
Kev said:
Pumping. And releasing. :eek:

Gotta be good at it. :smoke:
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