AA EAGLE 300hr mins.

I have about 200TT / 40 Multi. Think they'll pay for the remaining 50 hours I need to qualify to take my Commercial checkride, and then pay for the checkride, and then pay for FlightSafety!? :sarcasm:

In all seriousness, though, I live in Santa Barbara and would have no problem flying the SAAB out of LAX. It'd be fun. I drive a Saab, and it ain't too shabby :)

PS: Am willing to split time with anyone with access to a duchess or seminole around LA!
 
new hires that turn their nose when you tell them you are training with PDT. And I quote "oh you're just training on the Dash 8..." Have I answered your question? :)
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Well, I have seen that conversation too many times at CLT training center. It went like this - "Shhhh....There are a lot of pilots are training for PDT. I feel sorry for them..." That sort of conversaion? The best part - they are just there for interview.

I let Bob to chime in on that issue.
 
nc1982 said:
Im gonna play devils advocate on this one. I think all these rumors we hear about low timers getting on is just rumors. Most of it is second hand knowledge that we hear from other people. While there are rare cases of low time hires, I personally talked to Karen and Claudette in recruiting at eagle and they said no matter how desperate they are for pilots, 400/50 is the bare minimums they will look at. And plus, the 400/50 is whats listed on their website but realistically those mins apply to past interns or graduates from Embry Riddle or one of those aviation universities. Seriously, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers but I just wanted to clear that up before guys with 300 total hours start spending money on airlineapps.com to submit their resumes.
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I found out the hard way by wasting my money on airlineapps.com last month. I have 354TT, 45ME. I have gotten 2 replies of need more time and jet bridge course, as well as the usual no responses. I was misinformed about the pilot shortage. You still need to work your way up the hard way in most cases.

David
 
adreamer said:
It went like this - "Shhhh....There are a lot of pilots are training for PDT. I feel sorry for them..." That sort of conversaion? The best part - they are just there for interview.
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Well if they are happy making $12k instructing or $18k flying for someone else that's their business. It seems like people in this industry tend to forget that you have to make a living too.
 
Well lets face it it does not matter who you fly for as long as you are flying at getting paid to do it.

MINS...... I guess if you get hired on with 300TT consider yourself lucky, but if not I guess it just a sign you need more experience and to just keep chugging away at it. I mean I guess flying for a regional might become a "norm" now that the major and scapping up cash with the $6 gas as some major airports now so they just toss they biz off to the 70 seat regional. I heard that the 70 seaters are really paying of for airline operating those 50-60 percent routes because its just easier to slap that route on a regional parnter.

As far as upgrade times go I hate airlines that advertise 18-24 month for an upgrade and you at their last CA upgrades and they were years ago.You tell me what the deal is with that. O, i like the video on pilot at www.americaneaglecareers.com. I guess they are trying to make regional flying sound glamorous.LOL.... I wish they would mention the pay in the videos..LOL...O and how about the upgrade time....O well, I guess as long as your flying you just got to tough it out at the regional as survice on the 5 buck an hour and 15hour days wages flying jet or non-jet.
 
Well lets face it it does not matter who you fly for as long as you are flying at getting paid to do it.

MINS...... I guess if you get hired on with 300TT consider yourself lucky, but if not I guess it just a sign you need more experience and to just keep chugging away at it. I mean I guess flying for a regional might become a "norm" now that the major and scapping up cash with the $6 gas as some major airports now so they just toss they biz off to the 70 seat regional. I heard that the 70 seaters are really paying off for airlines operating those 50-60 percent routes because its just easier to slap that route on a regional parnter.

As far as upgrade times go I hate airlines that advertise 18-24 month for an upgrade and you at their last CA upgrades and they were years ago.You tell me what the deal is with that. O, i like the video on pilot at www.americaneaglecareers.com. I guess they are trying to make regional flying sound glamorous.LOL.... I wish they would mention the pay in the videos..LOL...O and how about the upgrade time....O well, I guess as long as your flying you just got to tough it out at the regional as survice on the 5 buck an hour and 15hour days wages flying jet or non-jet.
 
PacMan4x4 said:
LOADY.....have you looked into this program anymore since NJC?
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Nope. I sent an email as I was asked to do. In return, I was supposed to get all the details. Never heard anything. I thought about sending another email, but then decided against it.

So if I read this correctly, they want close to $80,000?????????????
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The way I understood it, they pay for it. I sent an email for clarification, as stated above. So I don;t know for sure.

While there are rare cases of low time hires, I personally talked to Karen and Claudette in recruiting at eagle and they said no matter how desperate they are for pilots, 400/50 is the bare minimums they will look at. And plus, the 400/50 is whats listed on their website but realistically those mins apply to past interns or graduates from Embry Riddle or one of those aviation universities. Seriously, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers but I just wanted to clear that up before guys with 300 total hours start spending money on airlineapps.com to submit their resumes.
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http://www2.atpflightschool.com/AirlinePlacements/
 
Let me get out the crystal ball deary...hehe...just kiddin dude.

My opinion: They will be as desperate as they are now until the final guy hired before the three year hiring freeze makes Captain. Then upgrade time will drop from 7-8 years to 4-5. That is still high though, so I would expect they won't be short of openings even then, especially given that they are going to be sold away from AA this year.
 
atpn2008 said:
How long do you think this will last with AE?
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I have no idea. I think it might take sometime before it changes. Lots of airlines will hire people with as low as 250 TT these days which is good for young pilots but very bad for student pilots.... All of the flight schools are hurting right now....
 
Ami said:
I have no idea. I think it might take sometime before it changes. Lots of airlines will hire people with as low as 250 TT these days which is good for young pilots but very bad for student pilots.... All of the flight schools are hurting right now....
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I just received this email; Does anyone know if LAX is still open as a choice and what type of equipment would one start with if they went to LAX?






American Eagle Airlines would like to announce their next upcoming First Officer job fair. We are now requiring 500 hours of total time and 100 hours of multi time. We will also accept applications with 400 hours of total time and 50 hours of multi time. Please see our website for further details.
*Advanced registration is not needed to attend the job fair.
American Eagle Airlines would like to announce that Flight Safety will join them at the upcoming job fair to be held at the Holiday Inn Select O’Hare. Flight Safety will be available to speak to those applicants in attendance about available programs currently being offered at Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach, FL.

Upcoming Job Fair:

January 12, 2008-Chicago, IL
Holiday Inn Select O’Hare
10233 West Higgins Road
Rosemont, IL 60018
A presentation will begin at 10:00 a.m. and will be followed by a Q & A session and prescreening interviews. First Officer Interviews, consisting of a Human Resource interview and a Technical interview, will be held at the hotel for qualified pilots. Pilots selected during this interview process will be scheduled to come to Dallas to complete the Simulator portion of the interview. Please bring a resume’ or complete an application online at www.americaneaglecareers.com and bring the application with you to the job fair. Details regarding current minimums and other requirements for an interview can be found on our website. American Eagle currently has domicile selection program, with selection from available bases made prior to the start of training. Please email Karen at AmericanEagle@airlineapps.com for questions regarding any upcoming job fairs.

Karen Floyd
American Eagle
Pilot Recruitment
americaneagle@airlineapps.com
www.americaneaglecareers.com
 
atpn2008 said:
How long do you think this will last with AE?
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Some guys asked the same question when Eagle went from 1000TT to 800TT. It got lower; 600TT and now 400TT. It will go down from here because the demand is so high. The trick is to raise the payscale, not lower the standards. There are qualified pilots out there but not enough who will take a job flying jets for peanuts and crumbs.

And yes, LAX is still a choice. More than likely you will fly the Saab 340. Great airplane!
 
It's about time our domestic carriers have gotten with the program. European and Asian carriers have been doing this for decades with their ab-initio programs. I know someone who got on with United (mainline) about eight years ago with about 350-400 hours straight into a 737. It was unbelivable then and now he's FO on a 777. I don't know who knew him, but it most of been someone who can make things happen. I trained with this guy some and he got the job offer about a week after he got his CFI.

As for Eagle, this is good for the industry I think as the airlines can get some younger pilots and groom these people to think 121 early in their aviation careers, pay them less (unfortunate), offer more flights, make more money and be more stable ~ in theory. The unfortunate reality is that many of the people who run airlines have no idea how to make them work and the guys at the top bail when things get bad, take all the money and leave the employee's to deal with their f--k ups.

Just my two cents!
 
av8rdrew said:
It's about time our domestic carriers have gotten with the program. European and Asian carriers have been doing this for decades with their ab-initio programs. I know someone who got on with United (mainline) about eight years ago with about 350-400 hours straight into a 737. It was unbelivable then and now he's FO on a 777. I don't know who knew him, but it most of been someone who can make things happen. I trained with this guy some and he got the job offer about a week after he got his CFI.

As for Eagle, this is good for the industry I think as the airlines can get some younger pilots and groom these people to think 121 early in their aviation careers, pay them less (unfortunate), offer more flights, make more money and be more stable ~ in theory. The unfortunate reality is that many of the people who run airlines have no idea how to make them work and the guys at the top bail when things get bad, take all the money and leave the employee's to deal with their f--k ups.

Just my two cents!
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I'm not trying to be a smart ass here but how is paying theses guys less good for the industry?
 
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