414 in the water off of San Diego

Sure. I also never shot an approach to minimums until I was at the airlines. But even if that were true about his actual time, you would think he would have self assessed when he survived the first dive by 200 ft that maybe he ought not head back into the same conditions that got him into trouble in the first place.
I don’t know. The only witness is dead.

I don’t think we factor-in pride enough.

Too proud to go around: dead
Too proud stay VMC: dead
Too proud to declare an emergency when low of fuel: dead
 
Seeing @derg post and the others re the lack of common equipment on the older machines gives me thots/questions.

The Tomahawk was Pipers response to a survey of CFI's that called for a training plane that was not so benign as to make it difficult to teach more challenging things (stalls/spins). WW2 trainers were often more challenging (T-6) than the frontline fighters in many ways. From what I've heard an old 6-pack steam gauge is more difficult IFR wise than a glass panel techno thing. Does it make sense to teach in an old steam gauge thing then transition to glass after mastery (IFR ticket) of steam gauges? I've heard people say if you can fly IFR with analog stuff it's an easy transition. Is your SA better and better understanding drilled with the older way?

As for the bespoke nature of the equipment among the fleet - this is where Redbird and their VR stuff could be utilized maybe. Using VR couldn't an exact replica of a specific panel/equipment be simulated providing. a bespoke training experience for bespoke airplane equipment? This could alleviate FSI not having training programs for these.

Just thoughts, questions and such.
I had a fancy (early '90s) handheld Garmin GPS Nav/Com with a rudimentary moving map that would show airports and airspace as a backup back in the olden times when I was training. My instructor wouldn't let me remove it from my flight bag, he made me leave it in my truck before he'd sign me off for my solo long cross country flights as a student. He wanted me to be able to navigate with the bare minimums. It worked and I built that muscle at that time. When he finally did allow me to use it I didn't really need it, except once at 9000' over the Central Valley when I smelled something burning, hit the NRST button and spent a fine afternoon in Paso Robles waiting for a ride home.
 
Word. I actually do hate (not just saying it) to sound like some angry old grognard on APC going through his third divorce and taking it out on "these damned kids" (or, probably more correctly in the aggregate, "these damned rich guys"), but there sure do seem to be an awful lot of totally operable airplanes flying into the ground after flying into a cloud. Which, ok, ever has it been so, but when everybody and his brother was flying around with a single vacuum pump made in the 70s and overhauled thirteen times, it was a little bit more understandable...
My take away from Air Wagner vids is he uses synthetic vision as if he's looking out the window. Or tries to. I wonder how many others do the same.

Other than the occasional GTN970 equipped bird, luckily my poor ass (you can totally say "ass" on here) has been doing all IFR training and general flying using 6-packs and paper charts. Only switched to ForeFlight last year when my club was like "breh your midnight flying paper charts in the cheapest most clapped out planes white ass better embrace the future because if you instruct; theyre not going to want to learn like that". I still use pilotage on VFR XCs as my primary navigation just going landmark to landmark, its more fun that way. I keep the iPad in the side pocket and take it out as needed, I don't mount it anywhere. For decades the freight dogs of this site did fine with VOR/DME, THAT is what requires practice for SA and not unaliving. RNAV? GPS? If you can't do that, you probably couldn't beat Pilot Wings 64.

When I fly with club members I challenge them to not use their iPad. "How will we stay out of the airspace?"."You still aren't familiar with the airspace boundary landmarks here?" "What? No! I use foreflight like everyone else". 0/3 tries to push these kids lol. I have hope that I can teach my daughter the lost ways.
 
My take away from Air Wagner vids is he uses synthetic vision as if he's looking out the window. Or tries to. I wonder how many others do the same.

Other than the occasional GTN970 equipped bird, luckily my poor ass (you can totally say "ass" on here) has been doing all IFR training and general flying using 6-packs and paper charts. Only switched to ForeFlight last year when my club was like "breh your midnight flying paper charts in the cheapest most clapped out planes white ass better embrace the future because if you instruct; theyre not going to want to learn like that". I still use pilotage on VFR XCs as my primary navigation just going landmark to landmark, its more fun that way. I keep the iPad in the side pocket and take it out as needed, I don't mount it anywhere. For decades the freight dogs of this site did fine with VOR/DME, THAT is what requires practice for SA and not unaliving. RNAV? GPS? If you can't do that, you probably couldn't beat Pilot Wings 64.

When I fly with club members I challenge them to not use their iPad. "How will we stay out of the airspace?"."You still aren't familiar with the airspace boundary landmarks here?" "What? No! I use foreflight like everyone else". 0/3 tries to push these kids lol. I have hope that I can teach my daughter the lost ways.
I have thousands of hours flying synthetic vision like I’m looking out the window, guarantee I didn’t fly like Jerry doing it lol. That might be what is saving his bacon but he’s still not good at it.
 
The 400 series has a vacuum pump in each engine.
If one fails, the other should work..... IF the check valves haven't disintegrated over the past 50+ years

that's a BIG if.

You're supposed to shut off one engine and check if one of the red poppets shows, then the check valve is there. If neither show, the check valve(s) is (are) shot and a single vacuum pump may not be sufficient to power the gyros since it's pulling through the opposite side and not exclusively through the gyros.

Difficult to determine if this aircraft had electrical gyros or something more modern.
 

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Pride/Not wanting to have F'ed up. I very nearly ran a Warrior out of fuel when I was a kid. Didn't want to fess up to having to land short and fuel. Like anyone would have cared.
I was just reciting the Shepherd's prayer. No, Alan Shepherd's prayer - "let us not frak up!"

English is dumb and everyone got the phonetic point here.
 
Pride/Not wanting to have F'ed up. I very nearly ran a Warrior out of fuel when I was a kid. Didn't want to fess up to having to land short and fuel. Like anyone would have cared.

Yes! I miscalculated winds on a long cross country from Albuquerque back in college and I was too prideful to land short and refuel so I pressed-on “hoping” that it’d be ok.

One of my top five dumbest decision-making moments.

The fueled put an “inordinate amount of fuel” onboard after I ramped in.

Pride gets a lot of people killed.
 
Yes! I miscalculated winds on a long cross country from Albuquerque back in college and I was too prideful to land short and refuel so I pressed-on “hoping” that it’d be ok.

One of my top five dumbest decision-making moments.

The fueled put an “inordinate amount of fuel” onboard after I ramped in.

Pride gets a lot of people killed.

The same thing happened to the renter before one of my students in the mighty C one-five-two. The fueler pumped 24 gallons to top it off, and with 24.5 useable - there wasn’t even enough for a go-around. School policy was first tank is free, and refills away from base would be reimbursed at local rate. The real head scratcher was the previous renter being a wide body captain at a legacy that didn’t want to stop and risk not being reimbursed for fuel.
 
Pride/Not wanting to have F'ed up. I very nearly ran a Warrior out of fuel when I was a kid. Didn't want to fess up to having to land short and fuel. Like anyone would have cared.

The articles I've read mention that he had aspirations of making it to the airlines, so it's possible that he potentially didn't want a mark on his record, and that might have played into his decision making. The VAS video of his flight the night before is troubling.
 
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