112 Stage Check

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I'll probably be up this week for the 112 stage check... I am curious, where are common destinations for the X/C portions? My instructor said it might be as far as MSP... So I am really excited to plan another long cross country that I won't be flying. :)

On another note, I can't wait to finally be done with turns around a point!!!
 
juxtapilot said:
I'll probably be up this week for the 112 stage check... I am curious, where are common destinations for the X/C portions? My instructor said it might be as far as MSP... So I am really excited to plan another long cross country that I won't be flying. :)

On another note, I can't wait to finally be done with turns around a point!!!
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You'll never beat my 10+ X/Cs planned per week and zero actually flown. Some as far as Rapid City. "Ohhhh Visibility dropped to 9sm instead of the 10sm required for night, oh wait the ceilings are supposed to drop to 4000 too, yeah you can't fly." Best part is when night time actually comes vis goes to 10sm and ceilings up to 7000. Great! Another 330nm plan done and no flight. Yeah I have a flight planned for Tuesday...which probaly won't happen if this keeps up. I checked my logbook...haven't actually flown since 9/26. :confused:


As for the stage check I noticed St. Paul Downtown and International Falls are popular. I had some really weird weight requests when I did my stage check...minimum fuel...maximum "beverages" for the party in St. Paul. :D
 
Yeah, it depends on the stage pilot. In 102, I had STP on my 26, and INL for my 30; seem like the popular ones, as said earlier. I actually just did my 221, 20 last week, and my cross-country for that was to freakin FFM. And what made it even easier was that I had already been there, heh.
 
Was up for 1.7 today "reviewing" for the Stage... Yet it remains incomplete. I seriously can't figure out why we almost NEVER have enough time to complete a lesson. It's driving me crazy... I have had to incomplete 4 out of 14 lessons. It usually is taking 3 hours to complete a single lesson. This stuff is seriously bugging me.:banghead::banghead:

And it's costing me a lot more money than I was expecting.:) (But that is to be expected I guess.)

A friend of mine had his Stage today, and said his pilot had him plan to St. Paul... I can't wait.
 
juxtapilot said:
Was up for 1.7 today "reviewing" for the Stage... Yet it remains incomplete. I seriously can't figure out why we almost NEVER have enough time to complete a lesson. It's driving me crazy... I have had to incomplete 4 out of 14 lessons. It usually is taking 3 hours to complete a single lesson. This stuff is seriously bugging me.:banghead::banghead:

And it's costing me a lot more money than I was expecting.:) (But that is to be expected I guess.)

A friend of mine had his Stage today, and said his pilot had him plan to St. Paul... I can't wait.
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well the only one that can answer that is you.

what IS taking so long? taking forever fumbling around for checklists? (commit them to memory) taking forever to setup for maneuvers? (again, memory.)

is it a preparedness issue or a performance issue?
 
TXaviator said:
taking forever fumbling around for checklists? (commit them to memory) taking forever to setup for maneuvers? (again, memory.)
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I think we were all guilty of this at one point or another. Probably the case...not ripping on it, just an observation as I once was a student too. Any truth to it, Juxtapilot?
 
AngelFuree said:
I think we were all guilty of this at one point or another. Probably the case...not ripping on it, just an observation as I once was a student too. Any truth to it, Juxtapilot?
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yeah it wasnt a rip at all. im currently guilty with 325. totally burned out right now and frustrated with continual SNAFU. my effort level is about zero, and im aware of it.
 
TXaviator said:
well the only one that can answer that is you.

what IS taking so long? taking forever fumbling around for checklists? (commit them to memory) taking forever to setup for maneuvers? (again, memory.)

is it a preparedness issue or a performance issue?
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I hope it's not a performance issue. I guess I could say that the first lesson or two were a little slow, because I was learning about GPS and gadgets I had NEVER seen in my life... But that phase is over... Now I'm not really sure.

AngelFuree said:
I think we were all guilty of this at one point or another. Probably the case...not ripping on it, just an observation as I once was a student too. Any truth to it, Juxtapilot?
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Hmmm, I know what you mean, but with the flows, I don't think that's really been affecting me. Checklists and set-ups have been pretty simular to flying at home, so it hasn't been too difficult.

Today it took us around 10-15 minutes to start the engine and get to runway 17R then another 25 minutes to get the the practice area. I think it takes too long to get going once we are in the practice area. Then after the manuver we talk about it for a minute or two then do a different manuver. Personally I would like to do (as an example) Do power off stalls, recover, do a clearing turn, go into power on stall, recover and go into slow flight... then drop down and do s-turns. I guess the time in between adds up, but honestly I don't know whats up. I probably will do an observation flight tomorrow to see what they do differently. The last time I went it was on an early 102 flight... that didn't help too much.

I guess I have to look over the flights and try to figure out whats up, because I've got to be doing something wrong or weird...

Thanks Guys!
 
TXaviator said:
yeah it wasnt a rip at all. im currently guilty with 325. totally burned out right now and frustrated with continual SNAFU. my effort level is about zero, and im aware of it.
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I read your post, and had light bulbs and alarms and sirens all going off in my head... I am so hurried to get done I probably haven't worked at the manuvers well enough. It's like I get half way into a steep turn and decide "bah I don't feel like doing a steep turn anymore." Maybe my performance is a factor, low effort could be directly affecting how well I fly.
 
10-15 mins to startup and get to the hold short sounds excessive.... only thing to hold up there (that i can readily think of) is checklist and flow use.

25 mins to the practice area, cant really change that.

in my opinion, if your instructor is wanting to discuss things IN DETAIL after each maneuver, that might not be the best approach. what most instructors ive seen do is try to make brief suggestions in the plane, then discuss in more detail back on the ground.
 
10-15 mins to startup and get to the hold short sounds excessive.... only thing to hold up there (that i can readily think of) is checklist and flow use.
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actually if you are quick enough ADHARS can slow you up about 30 seconds.....
 
juxtapilot said:
I wish it was ADHARS that was holding me up... :D It would have been nice to have flown glass. Not that I hate the 6 pack. Glass would have been something new and fun!
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actually the glass slows down a lot of people and in 112 the students i have flown with it only hurt them
 
BuickCFI said:
actually the glass slows down a lot of people and in 112 the students i have flown with it only hurt them
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in IFR flight, i find to feel a bit more confident in my situational awareness with the glass, simply because it really does give you a good visual picture of where you are and your relationship to certain points in space.

as far as smoothness of flight, i find the analog representation of instruments to be a little more visually pleasing, as it is easier to subconsciously spot and interpret trends and movements.

pros and cons to both, definitely.
 
BuickCFI said:
actually the glass slows down a lot of people and in 112 the students i have flown with it only hurt them
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Yeah I can see how it could put us at a disadvantage... I guess I was just hoping to have some newer experiences. Everything's been kind of low energy it seems. I think that's my fault though. Next week I will just kick 112's butt and rock though! :rawk:
 
juxtapilot said:
Yeah I can see how it could put us at a disadvantage... I guess I was just hoping to have some newer experiences. Everything's been kind of low energy it seems. I think that's my fault though. Next week I will just kick 112's butt and rock though! :rawk:
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getting motivated really does help. not that you can just "decide" to get motivated, but definitely when im in the right mindset, i get a lot more accomplished.
 
TXaviator said:
as far as smoothness of flight, i find the analog representation of instruments to be a little more visually pleasing, as it is easier to subconsciously spot and interpret trends and movements.
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I think it's a thing of getting used to. I like the glass because it's waaay wayyy too easy to fly IFR w/ it. Having numbers makes your flying a lot more accurate/smoother when you can hold yourself to 3000ft vs. 2999.99 (obviously I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea). It just takes a few hours of getting used to and eventually just clicks. I can comfortably fly both. The ground track line (white dashed line on HSI) is a nice added feature though.
 
AngelFuree said:
I think it's a thing of getting used to. I like the glass because it's waaay wayyy too easy to fly IFR w/ it. Having numbers makes your flying a lot more accurate/smoother when you can hold yourself to 3000ft vs. 2999.99 (obviously I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea). It just takes a few hours of getting used to and eventually just clicks. I can comfortably fly both. The ground track line (white dashed line on HSI) is a nice added feature though.
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yeah but it pisses me off a lot when i take away all moving maps and my students can no longer fly they freaking airplane by reference to instruments. they have ZERO situational awareness because they did 222 in the glass.

i had one student the other day who tried to fly with 4 moving maps up! on the HSI, MFD, and both GPS, all the same damn thing. i took them all away and made him shoot an approach with RMI only and the result was ugly :(

the glass is a great tool, but i wish more people would take way the maps more often so that you can build situational awareness of where you are w/o it. not every airplane has a moving map so it doesn't make sense to teach only that way :(


i am also one of few people that loves NDB's. i absolutely hated them in 222 since i unsat my 46 on them but now that i truly understand it, there is nothing better for keeping your own proficiency up than going out and shooting and ndb in actual or with a safety pilot. i figure if i can do that and maintain my course no problem than the ILS is cake if i need to use it someday to get in

/end rant
 
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