1000TT and Below Post Them As You Find Them

prockhard69 said:
There is nothing out there right now. Even Key lime isn't hiring. I hate to burst everyone's bubble but.....I have 1500 hours with 135 experience and sorry no jobs.
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I hate to burst everyone's bubble too, but I have 2500, 900ME, 135 experience, and virtually no jobs to apply for.

I talked to a friend from Cherry Air. He said one of the senior captains got laid off several months ago. A guy with thousands of PIC time in the Falcon, and he hasn't found work yet either....:banghead:
 
Comair 100ER said:
Yeah, they're not hiring right now as they are full. As for Go Jet, there are plenty of resumes that have been sent there I'm sure and I doubt anyone would get in there with anything less than 1000 hours.
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An inside source with Go Jet gave me the scoop. They were suppost to have several aircraft delivered in the next couple months, but the shipments got delayed, so they have put all interviews on hold. The CP has a stack of over 500 resumes already approved for interviews, if they start interviewing in the near future. Before they even get to the stack of resumes they have to offer a job to the United furloughies. That stack of 500 that are already approved are mainly furloughed Captains from many regional and even major airlines. Unless you have a lot of turbine PIC with previous 121 experience, you probably won't get into Go Jet.

But of course, what member of this site would want to go there.:sarcasm:
 
Ami said:
Have you tried Cape Air and Ameriflight?
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Cape Air is only putting together a hiring pool. Ameriflight says they are hiring, but everytime I talk to Silvia Perez, she says the same thing, "We are only putting together a pool for a future class date." But I know of at least one Airnet Furloughie who recently got a job there.:banghead:
 
Yeah, I love how many people post on here that there are plenty of jobs out there and then they tell the guys who cfi just to build time that they need to get another job and that if you look it's easy. I have easily applied to over 100 places in the past year and aside from the cfi gig i have now which really kind of fell into my lap i have only received one email saying that i was put on a waiting list and that was for atp. There is nothing out there. The few places that say they are hiring, whether pipeline patrol, cfi, or otherwise are usually only looking for 1 or 2 guys and they have a stack of resumes hundreds if not thousands deep.
 
JrsyGuy said:
There is nothing out there. The few places that say they are hiring, whether pipeline patrol, cfi, or otherwise are usually only looking for 1 or 2 guys and they have a stack of resumes hundreds if not thousands deep.
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It's been that way since before you were born and it'll be that way long after you're gone. There have always been more pilots than pilot jobs. Things might be worse now, but they were never good.

My experience has been that putting your resume on the pile, gets you nowhere 90% of the time when things are better and 99% of the time when things are worse. Sending out a resume cold (i.e. without having a contact or being known to someone in the company) is like fishing with no bait on your hook. You should still do it because you've got nothing to lose. But you shouldn't expect to catch many fish. Regardless of the job climate, getting hired is always easier when you have an in. Either you know someone working there or you're already working there in some other capacity.

You want to get a 135 gig? Once you have enough time to make their insurance mins, get a job pumping gas on their ramp and wait. Keep a clean pair of dockers and golf shirt in the trunk of your car at all times so you're ready when the King Air FO calls out sick for the last time and they've got a trip leaving in an hour with no right seater. Want to drop jumpers? Get a job in the manifest office and wait. Keep teaching part time to stay current. Want to break into something bigger? Get a job on a busy corporate ramp and network/smooze/butt kiss everyone you meet. When a job becomes available, you'll know about it before the ad ever gets placed. Pretty much everyone I know, pilot or otherwise who has a dream job, got that dream job because they knew someone and were able to get an interview before the job was ever posted.

I used to do some side work for a skydive operator (not flying jumpers). I needed to talk to the owner about something one day and I found him outside talking to another guy. The other guy was a pilot who was dropping off his resume. His resume was impressive. He had previous jump pilot experience, he had twin turbine time, and way more total time than I had at the time. When they were done the owner told him the usual 'I'll keep you in mind if something opens up'. As soon as the guy was out of earshot, the owner held the guys unopened resume out to me and asked if I wanted it with an evil grin on his face. He obviously had no interest in reading it. I was flying his jump planes a few months later even though I had low total time and no jump pilot experience. When hiring is down, who you know and who knows you becomes even more important.
 
Regional hiring is like a womans mind, nobody seems to understand it except for the owner... I can't tell you how many stories I've heard of people who get hired with low time over people with double or triple the experience. Each company has specific things they want to see like extracurricular activities, married or not married, experience in a certain type of aircraft and and infinite number of other things. They might not like the state your from, maybe you went to their rival college?... A few months back I was at a job fair talking to a recruiter and he told me specifically that they don't like to hire high time captains or people with previous experience on type because they've had many training, procedural, and "I know more about this plane than you conflicts." His exact words "we hire on personality and trainablility.period."

This industry is diverse as the people working in it. You never know whos looking at your resume. So if your minimum time CommMultiIns. then CFI for a bit because though I hate to assume, JetBlue probably won't hire you right now. But if you meet or almost meet company mins your shooting for then send in your app. you never know...:D
 
dcramer16 said:
Cape Air is only putting together a hiring pool. Ameriflight says they are hiring, but everytime I talk to Silvia Perez, she says the same thing, "We are only putting together a pool for a future class date." But I know of at least one Airnet Furloughie who recently got a job there.:banghead:
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When did you talk to her?
 
Joe Gremlin said:
It's been that way since before you were born and it'll be that way long after you're gone. There have always been more pilots than pilot jobs. Things might be worse now, but they were never good.

My experience has been that putting your resume on the pile, gets you nowhere 90% of the time when things are better and 99% of the time when things are worse. Sending out a resume cold (i.e. without having a contact or being known to someone in the company) is like fishing with no bait on your hook. You should still do it because you've got nothing to lose. But you shouldn't expect to catch many fish. Regardless of the job climate, getting hired is always easier when you have an in. Either you know someone working there or you're already working there in some other capacity.

You want to get a 135 gig? Once you have enough time to make their insurance mins, get a job pumping gas on their ramp and wait. Keep a clean pair of dockers and golf shirt in the trunk of your car at all times so you're ready when the King Air FO calls out sick for the last time and they've got a trip leaving in an hour with no right seater. Want to drop jumpers? Get a job in the manifest office and wait. Keep teaching part time to stay current. Want to break into something bigger? Get a job on a busy corporate ramp and network/smooze/butt kiss everyone you meet. When a job becomes available, you'll know about it before the ad ever gets placed. Pretty much everyone I know, pilot or otherwise who has a dream job, got that dream job because they knew someone and were able to get an interview before the job was ever posted.

I used to do some side work for a skydive operator (not flying jumpers). I needed to talk to the owner about something one day and I found him outside talking to another guy. The other guy was a pilot who was dropping off his resume. His resume was impressive. He had previous jump pilot experience, he had twin turbine time, and way more total time than I had at the time. When they were done the owner told him the usual 'I'll keep you in mind if something opens up'. As soon as the guy was out of earshot, the owner held the guys unopened resume out to me and asked if I wanted it with an evil grin on his face. He obviously had no interest in reading it. I was flying his jump planes a few months later even though I had low total time and no jump pilot experience. When hiring is down, who you know and who knows you becomes even more important.
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Me thinks this would look good if framed and read many times over by some people. Very nice guidelines! Thanks Joe - I meant to write something like this for a while and now you did it.
 
Joe Gremlin said:
It's been that way since before you were born and it'll be that way long after you're gone. There have always been more pilots than pilot jobs. Things might be worse now, but they were never good.

My experience has been that putting your resume on the pile, gets you nowhere 90% of the time when things are better and 99% of the time when things are worse. Sending out a resume cold (i.e. without having a contact or being known to someone in the company) is like fishing with no bait on your hook. You should still do it because you've got nothing to lose. But you shouldn't expect to catch many fish. Regardless of the job climate, getting hired is always easier when you have an in. Either you know someone working there or you're already working there in some other capacity.

You want to get a 135 gig? Once you have enough time to make their insurance mins, get a job pumping gas on their ramp and wait. Keep a clean pair of dockers and golf shirt in the trunk of your car at all times so you're ready when the King Air FO calls out sick for the last time and they've got a trip leaving in an hour with no right seater. Want to drop jumpers? Get a job in the manifest office and wait. Keep teaching part time to stay current. Want to break into something bigger? Get a job on a busy corporate ramp and network/smooze/butt kiss everyone you meet. When a job becomes available, you'll know about it before the ad ever gets placed. Pretty much everyone I know, pilot or otherwise who has a dream job, got that dream job because they knew someone and were able to get an interview before the job was ever posted.

I used to do some side work for a skydive operator (not flying jumpers). I needed to talk to the owner about something one day and I found him outside talking to another guy. The other guy was a pilot who was dropping off his resume. His resume was impressive. He had previous jump pilot experience, he had twin turbine time, and way more total time than I had at the time. When they were done the owner told him the usual 'I'll keep you in mind if something opens up'. As soon as the guy was out of earshot, the owner held the guys unopened resume out to me and asked if I wanted it with an evil grin on his face. He obviously had no interest in reading it. I was flying his jump planes a few months later even though I had low total time and no jump pilot experience. When hiring is down, who you know and who knows you becomes even more important.
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Man, I have been worried but your last paragraph had me grinning. Thanks for sharing.
 
ProudPilot said:
UAS Predator pilots needed.... a whole bunch of them. I can basically guarantee you'll be overseas, Iraq and Afghanistan are definite possibilities. Go here http://www.aaicorp.com/html/Careers/careers_main.html and search for pilot. You'll see about 40 opportunities open for Flight Crew. These jobs usually pay very very well.

Good Luck!
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I have a friend working as a sensor operator. It's not the greatest job in the world, but

  • The pay is good.
  • The pay is really good when deployed.
  • His company agreed to buy him 100 hours and his commercial rating after his first deployment.
He's prior service and knows what it's all about...I wouldn't recommend applying if short term QOL is a priority.
 
ProudPilot said:
UAS Predator pilots needed.... a whole bunch of them. I can basically guarantee you'll be overseas, Iraq and Afghanistan are definite possibilities. Go here http://www.aaicorp.com/html/Careers/careers_main.html and search for pilot. You'll see about 40 opportunities open for Flight Crew. These jobs usually pay very very well.

Good Luck!
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Not sure what a Predator is, but app sent. Thanks for posting that, sounds interesting.
 
ProudPilot said:
UAS Predator pilots needed.... a whole bunch of them. I can basically guarantee you'll be overseas, Iraq and Afghanistan are definite possibilities. Go here http://www.aaicorp.com/html/Careers/careers_main.html and search for pilot. You'll see about 40 opportunities open for Flight Crew. These jobs usually pay very very well.

Good Luck!
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These jobs aren't flying Predators, but RQ-7 Shadows.

This part is hiliarious:

Required Experience
Extensive experience and accomplishments at the national or international level competitive RC modeling field is required.
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So actual pilot certifications and experience are "highly desireable", but competitive RC model flying is a requirement? :panic:
 
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