What about piston's over 12,500?
Connie restoration - should it pay user fees to go places?
DC-3's, B-25's, B-17's, etc.?
What about the King Air B-200 that belongs to the local (non-profit) children's hospital?
Pay up!
Pay up!
For someone who hates airline management you sure are speaking a lot for them.
Do you honestly think if corporate had to pay user fees they would give y'all anymore pay??
Wrong answer.
I would propose no user fees at all for any airplane with a piston engine. All lifeguard flights are free of user fees. Any corporate jet carrying Angel Flight or similiar organization patients exempt from fee for that flight.
Who's clogging the NY airspace? TEB, MMU, and bizjets, or JFK, LGA, and EWR and the airlines?
Seriously, I know you don't believe that Surreal. You thin there are hundreds and hundreds of ops into and out of TEB and MMU per hour like the airlines are doing? Oh yeah, we might as well add PHL to that since they are all the same Charlie Fox. Look at how many bizjets operate and how many airline operations there are. You're a smart guy. Don't buy into the airline mgmt line. Don't kill GA. You came from there, remember?!They both are.
And airspace redesign is occuring in the New York Terminal area, as well as some significant adjustments to the enroute structure along the east coast.
No one segment of the industry is to blame for the nightmare that is the NYC terminal area.
Blame should be humbly accepted on each and every end, that includes corporate, airline, and the ATO.
Funny, I thought it was the price of Jet A?! How much latitude should we give the airlines. If you can't operate your business knowing exactly how it's operated for the last 30 years, then shut the doors. Or develop a better business model and run with it. Don't ask for handouts...the airlines have already received how much bailout money, debts erased in bankruptcy, and special favors from communities to get the airline service into certain areas.No, but I think it would provide for an increase in job security. An industry that pays less in taxes has more latitude to operate their business. Taxes are strangling the airlines. The burden needs to be spread around.
Funny, I thought it was the price of Jet A?! How much latitude should we give the airlines. If you can't operate your business knowing exactly how it's operated for the last 30 years, then shut the doors. Or develop a better business model and run with it. Don't ask for handouts...the airlines have already received how much bailout money, debts erased in bankruptcy, and special favors from communities to get the airline service into certain areas.
It's not a "handout," it's fairness. The corporate operators need to pay their fair share. Time to stop leeching off of the airlines at their expense.
If the airlines had to pay the same price of gas that corporate operators have to, well let's just say the airlines would be out of business or they'd be forced to charge more for ticket prices.
Look up the price of Jet A in ASE, TEB, VNY, HDN, SUN, LAS, ect.
Seriously, I know you don't believe that Surreal. You thin there are hundreds and hundreds of ops into and out of TEB and MMU per hour like the airlines are doing? Oh yeah, we might as well add PHL to that since they are all the same Charlie Fox. Look at how many bizjets operate and how many airline operations there are. You're a smart guy. Don't buy into the airline mgmt line. Don't kill GA. You came from there, remember?!
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Its actually worse than that. Now that he doesn't need it anymore, he wants to stomp it into the ground so no others can have the same opportunity, or pose a threat to his employment. Kinda makes me sick.
Its funny that some here would even consider having a system like they have in Europe (JAA), where there is no GA.
You sure about the bolded part?
You see, the rest of your post really doesn't matter when you make a blatant false statement like that.
There is GA in Europe. It looks MUCH different than the free-spirit GA of the United States of America though. But there is General Aviation, everything from Gliders to Multi-Engine pistons. They're there.
You sure about the bolded part?
You see, the rest of your post really doesn't matter when you make a blatant false statement like that.
There is GA in Europe. It looks MUCH different than the free-spirit GA of the United States of America though. But there is General Aviation, everything from Gliders to Multi-Engine pistons. They're there.
Ya you have to be very wealthy to fly GA in Europe. A Seminole goes for about $700 per hour in most European countries. Then you can pay per landing fees on top of that. Sound fun??