What's the deal with anti-Leather jackets?

Don't get me started on PA's, that's a whole 'nother six page thread!
 
I'll probably get it started after brekkie unless you want to start it.
 
Mmmm, cholesterol... ...so tasty!

Actually, if we want better looking uniforms, how about we ditch the polyester? <w/ a lissssssp> "That is sooo 1970s!" Plus, the stuff melts to your skin in case of fire!

How about something nice looking in wool? (It's actually better in hot wx than the other stuff.) Maybe some not-quite-so-cheap-looking shirts. Those can make it look like "Air-Greyhound".

Now, what about flying air tours up in Alaska? Leather jacket okay there or no, you think?
 
Just my preference here, so no hard feelings...

Lose the leather- this isn't the 70's.

I've flown with some AWESOME guys who wear it, but I just cant help but roll my eyes when I see one.

I wear the blazer without the hat. The hat is old fashion too. Makes us look like greyhound drivers...wait...nvm.
 
Leather jackets are an aviation staple that has been around for quite a long time and will continue to be so. They're durable, comfortable, and a quite warm. I still have my Navy issued G-1 and I love it!:nana2:
 
Seggy said:
The real facts behind this argument on which look is more professional looking simply requires one to look at airlines in other countries. No matter if it the dead of winter to the dog days of summer you will see airline crews from outside the United States wearing blazers and hats, heck their flight attendants even have hats to wear.

When I was in Milan in March, I didn't see one crew member without a hat/blazer.
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And you think one trip to Milan painted an accurate picture? I have one of those cockpit DVDs from an Austrian airline, and the pilots wore military-style wool sweaters with epaulets, decidedly non-dressy waterproof/breathable winter jackets and no hats. This at an airline where their flight attendants were required to wear little hats, white gloves and skirts in winter!

For those who haven't ventured west of the Mississipi, the coat-and-tie thing that is so pervasive in the east is simply not in the west, where things are more casual generally. I see many of you east-coasters like Seggy insisting that the coat-and-tie look is more "professional" than a leather jacket, while people from the west are saying the leather is more practical, functional, and carries more aviation heritage with it.

Ergo, it's a regional preference (no pun intended).
 
aloft, you're kidding yourself if you're trying to say that the overwhelming majority of the rest of the world doesn't have their pilots in traditional uniforms, including blazers and hats. There are tiny exceptions to the rule, but virtually every foreign airline, even those in third-world countries, keep their pilots in traditional uniforms. Just in general, the rest of the world looks at Americans as slovenly and far too casual.
 
While we're beating the dead horse,

What about boots?

I have worn roper style boots for over a decade. I have a rough set of "work" boots that have seen plenty of construction sites, and a nicer pair of "dress" boots.

I find them very comfortable, very practical in foul weather, and I think they look fine.

I have no intetion of ever wearing "dress shoes" that cost an arm and a leg, and let your socks get soggy when it rains.



For the record, it is my personal goal to fly for an entire career having never worn a tie much less a suit.

I consider my self a pilot, not a "Captain".

There are a large number of people who care not a lick about clothes, myself included. Honestly, I am not really comfortable wearing a suit for anything other than a formal occasion (wedding, funeral, ect). I don't even wear a tie to church much less work. I couldn't care less if my surgon came to work wearing Charhart overalls, or my pilot was wearing blue jeans.

Those of you that do care very much about clothes will never be able to make those of us who don't, understand why it is so important to you. Just like the fact that I will never be able to convince PCL that it makes absolutely no difference to me. We will have to agree to disagree.

I will wear whatever uniform is required by whatever company I work for, but having the option to choose a more casual wardrobe is a deffinate perk in my opinion.
 
aloft said:
And you think one trip to Milan painted an accurate picture? I have one of those cockpit DVDs from an Austrian airline, and the pilots wore military-style wool sweaters with epaulets, decidedly non-dressy waterproof/breathable winter jackets and no hats. This at an airline where their flight attendants were required to wear little hats, white gloves and skirts in winter!

For those who haven't ventured west of the Mississipi, the coat-and-tie thing that is so pervasive in the east is simply not in the west, where things are more casual generally. I see many of you east-coasters like Seggy insisting that the coat-and-tie look is more "professional" than a leather jacket, while people from the west are saying the leather is more practical, functional, and carries more aviation heritage with it.

Ergo, it's a regional preference (no pun intended).
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No I painted the picture by spending countless hours this past summer in the IAD International Terminal seeing the big international push and flight crews from many international carriers.

Also what composed this picture was the hundreds of times I ventured over to the BOS International Terminal, over the past two years, where they have the best food, during my time here at Colgan. Over there guess what I see??? International flight crews with blazers and jackets no matter what season it was.


99% of the international airline crews wear a hat and blazer. Not really debatable.
 
Seggy said:
No I painted the picture by spending countless hours this past summer in the IAD International Terminal seeing the big international push and flight crews from many international carriers.

Also what composed this picture was the hundreds of times I ventured over to the BOS International Terminal, over the past two years, where they have the best food, during my time here at Colgan. Over there guess what I see??? International flight crews with blazers and jackets no matter what season it was.


99% of the international airline crews wear a hat and blazer. Not really debatable.
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U R teh suk (is that the right way to do it?)


I wear my leather coat, I engage my passengers, and all I get is great feedback from them. I am a diplomat for myself, my company, my profession and my country. I exude a relaxed and fun professionalism. I team build with everyone from the como to the rampers, MX and mgmt (they need love too). I defy you to tell me I come off unprofessionally because I wear a leather jacket (approved uniform item).

This is just silly . . .:D
 
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