I made my decision

One, I’m not out to insult people. Two, the incorrect spelling in the signature is supposed to be like that, some get it, some don’t. I don’t expect you too. Although I appreciate your opinionated comments, if they do not contribute to the discussion please refrain from posting in my thread. Thank you! Have fun!
One, I'm sure there are a few people who consider it an insult, consider how someone might feel who has a mentally handicapped person in their family, and then they read your sig. Two, yeah right. Three, you don't get to control who does and does not post in your thread, and I consider it contributing to the discussion because some people may have a hard time taking you and your 2 college degrees seriosuly when you have consistent spelling and grammar errors. You will find in life that it is important to look professional, bad spelling can really mess that up.
 
Dude, you're talkin' to a moderator and one of the nicest people at this board. Way nicer than me.....

I know, there is nothing wrong with what I said. I just want to stay on discussion. I didn't insult her, or “yell” was just giving some helpful info, because people tend to judge to much sometimes. Anyway, can we please get back to the topic?
 
One, I'm sure there are a few people who consider it an insult, consider how someone might feel who has a mentally handicapped person in their family, and then they read your sig. Two, yeah right. Three, you don't get to control who does and does not post in your thread, and I consider it contributing to the discussion because some people may have a hard time taking you and your 2 college degrees seriosuly when you have consistent spelling and grammar errors. You will find in life that it is important to look professional, bad spelling can really mess that up.

Thanks for the lesson; I didn't know I was in here to write an essay...
BTW you spelled seriously wrong see typos happen.. And what’s worse, is when flaming someone about their spelling and you mess up, now that’s funny.

 
Thanks for the lesson; I didn't know I was in here to write an essay...
BTW you spelled seriously wrong see typos happen
Yes, typos happen, and I'm certainly not immune, but considering I only have a 10th grade education, and you have (or are about to have) 2 college degrees, and I'm not here for my career or future employment and you are, you are the one that needs to worry more about your spelling. There is also a big difference between a typo and poor English. Just suggesting you work on that, you wouldn't want to be turned down for a job because your resume has multiple errors. (And it is Murphy's Law that when one person corrects another person for their spelling, they will, with 99% probability, also misspell something. :D )
 
And since it's important to you that I contribute to your discussion...you asked if ATP was safe, I can't speak of any other areas, but I can tell you they passed off my husband on an SE w/o actually doing it, and that's when he packed up and left. Take it for what it's worth.
 
Yes, typos happen, and I'm certainly not immune, but considering I only have a 10th grade education, and you have (or are about to have) 2 college degrees, and I'm not here for my career or future employment and you are, you are the one that needs to worry more about your spelling. There is also a big difference between a typo and poor English. Just suggesting you work on that, you wouldn't want to be turned down for a job because your resume has multiple errors. (And it is Murphy's Law that when one person corrects another person for their spelling, they will, with 99% probability, also misspell something. :D )

Obsessively.

I will admit spelling is not one of my strengthens, however when I do a resume, write an essay, or a 10,000 word research paper. I proof read, and edit. Here, not so much. I see plenty of grammar and spelling errors on JC. But, I don’t care… And I usually get good peer-reviews. So I am not worried at all. But I do appreciate your concern. May we please get back to the topic? Thanks!
 
And since it's important to you that I contribute to your discussion...you asked if ATP was safe, I can't speak of any other areas, but I can tell you they passed off my husband on an SE w/o actually doing it, and that's when he packed up and left. Take it for what it's worth.

They passed him off w/o an SE.. Really?? That odd, isn't that illegal?
 
They gave him the SE w/o actually doing it, yeah I would suppose that's illegal, I don't know anything about aviation though. :) He came back home and finished the rest of his ratings at the FBO, and when he actually did the SE and passed it off, he knew he did the right thing by leaving ATP. But that is one person, one experience, one endorsement, and doesn't mean the entire school operates that way. He also felt that what they told him to study (actually they told him he really didn't need to study all that much) was completely insufficient and left him very unprepared.
 
I would love too. Do you know of any training materials that are good, or do you think the ones I’ll order from ATP are good enough?

Hi Eagledriver,

I did my CFI/CFII/MEI at an "accelerated" school, well CFI/CFII were freelance instructor but back to topic. Don't know if you asked or if this is off topic, but to help going for any cerfiticate/rating I'd recommend you get all of the writtens out of the way (instrument, commercial, FOI, CFI, and CFII (just the instrument again). I used the Gleim books for this purpose, didn't learn a lot but got through the writtens, scored in the high 90s for every one. That will be one less thing you'll have to worry about, and you will pick up some knowledge too.

I also studied the oral exam guides before showing up for any training - ASA and other companies sell them... they're great and will consolidate a lot of knowledge for you.

Also, I'm assuming ATP will send you a large packet of info you'll have to learn.

I also purchased the Jepp commercial/instrument manuals, good for an overview, but IMHO too much superfluous info.
 
They gave him the SE w/o actually doing it, yeah I would suppose that's illegal, I don't know anything about aviation though. :) He came back home and finished the rest of his ratings at the FBO, and when he actually did the SE and passed it off, he knew he did the right thing by leaving ATP. But that is one person, one experience, one endorsement, and doesn't mean the entire school operates that way. He also felt that what they told him to study (actually they told him he really didn't need to study all that much) was completely insufficient and left him very unprepared.


Did he get any of his money back? And what location did he go to?
 
They gave him the SE w/o actually doing it, yeah I would suppose that's illegal, I don't know anything about aviation though. :) He came back home and finished the rest of his ratings at the FBO, and when he actually did the SE and passed it off, he knew he did the right thing by leaving ATP. But that is one person, one experience, one endorsement, and doesn't mean the entire school operates that way. He also felt that what they told him to study (actually they told him he really didn't need to study all that much) was completely insufficient and left him very unprepared.


Did he get any of his money back? And what location did he go to?
 
Did he get any of his money back? And what location did he go to?
He went to Las Vegas, and they prorated his refund, so they kept $1500, $500 a day for the 3 days he was there before he left, even though he accomplished nothing in those 3 days due to "orientation" and giving instructions and setting things up, at no fault of his own his first 3 days were useless. He was there for the 14 day CFI, though, not the 90 day that you are looking at. The SE at ATP he said was "done" in less than .6 in the plane, vs. coming home to the FBO it was 2 different flights of about 1.something (don't remember now) before they passed him off. He said if you read the endorsement there is no way he "passed" those things off at ATP.
 
He went to Las Vegas, and they prorated his refund, so they kept $1500, $500 a day for the 3 days he was there before he left, even though he accomplished nothing in those 3 days due to "orientation" and giving instructions and setting things up, at no fault of his own his first 3 days were useless. He was there for the 14 day CFI, though, not the 90 day that you are looking at. The SE at ATP he said was "done" in less than .6 in the plane, vs. coming home to the FBO it was 2 different flights of about 1.something (don't remember now) before they passed him off. He said if you read the endorsement there is no way he "passed" those things off at ATP.


Well I commend your husband for not taking their endorsements. It is nice to know there are people out there who don’t want a “free” ride. Meaning, “Heyyy I got the endorsement, I am good to go!” Then they kill themselves because of the lack of knowledge one really needed to be efficient. If I sense any of that, I’m gone the next day. If I am passed, and I know I don’t anything, I am out. You are the first case I have heard of that happening, I shall keep my eyes and ears open.

Lets hope they don’t pass out certificates left and right, I hope that they give them to those who really earned them.
 
Hey check this out, from what I can see its comparable to ATP's fast track but 15K less, and more ME time than ATP... I have never heard of this school... Looks good, though... wow.
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