Freight Dawg Mins

This is going toward the direction of what is is.
I think the piss is considered theirs once it enters the cup.
 
Naw, it's their piss. Sure they're doing the piss testing for somebody else, but they own the piss that they're transporting; the guys that are paying for the piss tests don't care where it goes or how it gets transported, they just want the results.

So the thing that's really being sold is the results of the test, not the piss itself. If they were in business soley to transport the piss then it'd be common carriage and it'd require a 135 certificate, but because the nature of the business is only the results, and they need to move THEIR piss from point A to point B to test it, then it's legal part 91.

No different than a company moving contractors from Las Vegas to area 51. Sure they're not employee's of the government, but because they're not holding out and it's not common carriage they could operate part 91...though I dunno if Janet has a 121 operating certificate or not.
 
So you mean I can't just walk up to a lapquest pilot and hand him a warm cup of....my piss and say take this to New York.?
 
Exactly :)

Which is exactly what people do with your boxes to us all the time!

"Hey...this is a mis-sort from Airnet, can you take it to Vegas?"

"This is a set of golf clubs, bro"

"Yeah we know, it ended up on the wrong Lear..."
 
Bottom line is, reading your guys quotes lets me go to sleep in this desloate hotel room with a smile on my face. Youre all crazy but god bless ya!
 
H46Bubba said:
I'm just curious as to what the mins are for freight. I know the FARs for 135 PIC IFR. I'm getting ready to finish up with my comercial ASEL and I'm trying to figure out where to go next. I wanted to originally instruct but I'm not feelin it anymore. Any advice is welcome.:)
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How do you plan to get time to meet the 135 Mins? 1200 hours is a lot when you only have 250 after getting your commercial.
 
Hey guys! I've been reading the JC forums now for about a month, so I thought it's about time for my first post!

I've never really looked at 135 stuff much because I only have 390 hours X-C time (I'm defining X-C as greater than 50 NM). After reading this forum a while, I've looked at several companies' employment requirements and I'm curious about the note about X-C time saying that it's not necessarily over 50 NM, but just point to point.

I'm assuming there is a minimum distance to count towards the X-C time requirement, or can I really count all the 5-20 NM flights between local airports as X-C for the 135 mins? Almost seems too good to be true!

Anyways, I've been flying for about 8 years, teaching for 2. TT is over 1350 now, and all I lack for 135 mins is that X-C time. If I can count the short hops, I'd guess I'm over 700 hours X-C...My original plan was to finish up Multi and just rent a twin for the 100 hour minimum that most regionals look for. After reading some of the freight dawg stories, I'd say spending a year or two as a freight dawg would be incredibly valuable time/experience that a regional would consider favorably?

Well, thanks again for all the info/advice you guys offer on these forums - it's very much appreciated!
 
qflyer said:
I'm assuming there is a minimum distance to count towards the X-C time requirement, or can I really count all the 5-20 NM flights between local airports as X-C for the 135 mins? Almost seems too good to be true!
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No min distance, and point to point counts.

And welcome to JC!
 
qflyer said:
I'm assuming there is a minimum distance to count towards the X-C time requirement, or can I really count all the 5-20 NM flights between local airports as X-C for the 135 mins? Almost seems too good to be true!
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My understanding is that the flights after your initial Commercial rating that are point to point count as X-C. Private, Instrument, and Commercial define what an X-C is. ATP doesn't define a cross country, so you go back to Part 1's definition of X-C.
 
mojo6911 said:
How do you plan to get time to meet the 135 Mins? 1200 hours is a lot when you only have 250 after getting your commercial.
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I'm, sitting at about 450 TT. I was just inqiring as to what were the mins which as everyone aswered was 135 PIC mins. So that answerd my question. I'm not sure if I want to instruct, so I'm covering all the bases as to time building.
 
mojo6911 said:
My understanding is that the flights after your initial Commercial rating that are point to point count as X-C. Private, Instrument, and Commercial define what an X-C is. ATP doesn't define a cross country, so you go back to Part 1's definition of X-C.
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That is incorrect. Your point to point XC time starts from day one. Some licenses/ratings require at least 50nm but that doesn't mean you can't accrue point to point time.
 
H46Bubba said:
I'm, sitting at about 450 TT. I was just inqiring as to what were the mins which as everyone aswered was 135 PIC mins. So that answerd my question. I'm not sure if I want to instruct, so I'm covering all the bases as to time building.
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Hey Bubba, try IBC Airways out of Miami, Lynx air out of FLL, and where your at -ABX air. They fly small short hops out of Wilmington. You need that COMM MULTI for all though. Most require 300 tt.

With you working for Comair, aren't your internal mins like 400tt with 100 multi?

Just curious.
 
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