Non-rev etiquette?
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EatSleepFly
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Not until you know who retires, at least.
I think it's the stupidest thing ever that we can't get more than one recip, but whatever. The bogus excuse they give is because "we can't carry pax in our freighters," but a jumpseater is considered an additional crew member regardless, not a passenger. This was brought up to EM in our winter meeting, and he essentially said don't plan on anything changing anytime soon.
EatSleepFly
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I know, but our jumpseat coordinator, as it were, won't allow it. 
EatSleepFly
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BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Don, I want to make sure I am getting you right here...
You are saying that if you are jumpseating off line on a PAX carrying airline and the gate clears you a seat you don't stop by up front? If that is what you are saying that flies in the face of just about everything related to jumpseating that I have ever been told.
You are saying that if you are jumpseating off line on a PAX carrying airline and the gate clears you a seat you don't stop by up front? If that is what you are saying that flies in the face of just about everything related to jumpseating that I have ever been told.
DE727UPS
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I'm saying I don't on Horizon cause that's what their jumpseat form says. Have you ever rode on them? Ever read the back of the form?
Yeah, it goes against everything you've ever been told. Me too.
But, it got me to thinking. If I want a free ride. Why does it have to be called jumpseating? If the airlines don't care if I non-rev, why not just give me the seat and save the hassle of bothering the crew when their busy. The Horizon form says "If desired, exchange greetings with the flight crew while deplaning".
Seems like a good way to work it, to me.
Yeah, it goes against everything you've ever been told. Me too.
But, it got me to thinking. If I want a free ride. Why does it have to be called jumpseating? If the airlines don't care if I non-rev, why not just give me the seat and save the hassle of bothering the crew when their busy. The Horizon form says "If desired, exchange greetings with the flight crew while deplaning".
Seems like a good way to work it, to me.
Captain_Bob
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Well... I imagine they don't/won't call it "non-reving"... specifically so that you will have the opportunity to "move" from the open seat to the JS if a higher pass class rider or paying passenger "bumps" you out of your seat.
Either way... I do agree with doing it exactly how the airline requests it.
Bob
Either way... I do agree with doing it exactly how the airline requests it.
Bob
wheelsup
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I jump on delta from time to time. It is expected (IMO) that I talk to the CA and ask permission. Jump seating isn't non-revving. Non revving would be like listing yourself on an airlines internal non rev listing service with which you have pass benefits. No reason to ask for permission because you can list yourself.
It's my understanding that the entire reason you talk to the CA is to ask for a seat because you don't have one. As a non-rev, you just sit in back. (although it appears horizon specifically states do NOT bother the crew, but every other airline would follow the above rules I think)
Talking to the crew as a non-rev, IMO, is a waste of everyone's time, but is expected (except on Horizon) if you are specifically requesting the "jumpseat" (ie off line travel).
It's my understanding that the entire reason you talk to the CA is to ask for a seat because you don't have one. As a non-rev, you just sit in back. (although it appears horizon specifically states do NOT bother the crew, but every other airline would follow the above rules I think)
Talking to the crew as a non-rev, IMO, is a waste of everyone's time, but is expected (except on Horizon) if you are specifically requesting the "jumpseat" (ie off line travel).
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
I have gotten a ride on Horizon (both in the back and up front) but every time I have it's been in the Frontier system and hence the jumpseat form doesn't say anything about not checking in with the crew.
If that's what the form says then that's what you should be doing I guess.
If that's what the form says then that's what you should be doing I guess.
From what I understand we can't even jump a ride on our own plane unless it is company related correct?
I can't remember who was saying but commuting is highly looked down at AMF
BrettInLJ
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More than that, you are also a member of the flight crew if you jumpseat. Hence, the rule that you can't consume alchohol 8 hours before jumpseating. As a jumpseater you have certain responsibilities and the Captain should have full discrection on whether or not s/he wants you on board.
Yes you should always introduce yourself. I learned the hard way and thought maybe I didn't need to if I had a seat in the back. Captain was busy, airplane was already late and I thought I wouldn't bother them and he called me up right before pushback and chewed my arse. I always introduce myself.
amorris311
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that had to be an embarrassing walk.
Goonie
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Hootie
Old Skool
Tool Captain. Why chew anybodies @ss over that?
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
I agree. Was it on a NWA DC-9? </cheap shot>
staplegun
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He's not a tool... he just wants to know who's on his airplane. There's a right way and a wrong way to do this. Unless an airline policy specifically instructs you differently, you always introduce yourself to the Captain and ask permission to ride his/her jumpseat. That is industry standard and just common courtesy. He got his @ss chewed because he was being rude!
Kevin