Amazon Air MIA Runway Excursion

Maybe… or they didn’t think it would go bad that fast; especially if they were light. I can’t imagine they were being much back from SJU.
I wonder if they had an additive for gusty winds and it ended up biting them in the end.

Either way it’ll be interesting to hear why someone didn’t manually deploy the boards. Between the 75 and 76 the 76 seemed to be the worse offender for the boards not coming up with a soft landing or after having a skip/bounce. This comes up a few times in our FCTM as well as making sure the mains are on the ground before de rotating.
It’s been a few years but my last shop we did CLT-SJU-CLT for Mister Bezos and the SJU-CLT leg was just empty cans coming back to the mainland. Same for FAI-PDX/GEG. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the case here too. Amazon still graded our performance on those empty legs too.
 
Dip• Steeeeeeeeeve tries to be the first to the punch to fatten his wallet off the lives of innocent victims.

aren’t all of those guys fattening their wallets with likes/bell rings/subscriptions/patreon membership?
 
yes and they all suck.


It’s one thing to discuss it here or amongst friends, family, and peers.

Too make videos for financial or personal gain that may be taken by gospel to people unfamiliar with aviation is disgusting to me.

i agree, and what further chaps me about them is when they push an opinion as an ad hoc “cause” to the accident, which then gets taken as gospel by their flight sim or other layperson followers, and some pilots too, before any evidence analysis has formally been done by any official entity. Then, anything that’s not what these self-appointed investigators preached, gets attacked and discounted by same idiot followers. And worse, when the subject matter they are discussing is something they don’t have the first clue about anyway. Reference things like helicopter accidents. From what i’ve heard by people who have seen their videos on X accident, Grinder is one of the worst at this especially with recent events like the helo that was run over, and Cornholio too, especially his lack of understanding on formation roles and responsibilities in the B-17 midair. Have to watch at least one Steeeve video to get an idea on him, but he sounds the same as the rest.
 
i agree, and what further chaps me about them is when they push an opinion as an ad hoc “cause” to the accident, which then gets taken as gospel by their flight sim or other layperson followers, and some pilots too, before any evidence analysis has formally been done by any official entity. Then, anything that’s not what these self-appointed investigators preached, gets attacked and discounted by same idiot followers. And worse, when the subject matter they are discussing is something they don’t have the first clue about anyway. Reference things like helicopter accidents. From what i’ve heard by people who have seen their videos on X accident, Grinder is one of the worst at this especially with recent events like the helo that was run over, and Cornholio too, especially his lack of understanding on formation roles and responsibilities in the B-17 midair. Have to watch at least one Steeeve video to get an idea on him, but he sounds the same as the rest.
Yep. I expect some self awareness from people in the profession that they may not have all the information, knowledge, or may be missing something. I look at it from the point if I f’ed up (believe me I have), how would I want people to talk about it. There is no humility in these YouTube and instagram investigator.

They also quote their qualifications like there isn’t 1000’s of guys with the same resume.
 
Yep. I expect some self awareness from people in the profession that they may not have all the information, knowledge, or may be missing something. I look at it from the point if I f’ed up (believe me I have), how would I want people to talk about it. There is no humility in these YouTube and instagram investigator.

They also quote their qualifications like there isn’t 1000’s of guys with the same resume.

these guys aren’t even actual qualified accident investigators. i happen to be, but i don’t discuss any conclusions or causes as im not party to the particular investigations. And if i was party to a particular investigation, i wouldn’t be able to speak publicly about it anyway, unless in some official news conference capacity. I’ll discuss observations of “what” from a video or whatever, and even some “how” with things that occur; but i don’t get into the “why” of conclusions, because i don’t have any magical further information or inside-baseball to a particular accident that has occurred, nor know what evidence has been gathered and analyzed, or yet to be gathered and analyzed and correlated.

But i’m also not in it for any profit making and attention-seeking either, under the guise of furthering safety.
 
FWIW, Mentour Pilot is, I'm sure, profiting from his unqualified accident-analysis, and I'm sure Mike would happily throw him in the same cell as the rest. But he does seem to be quite serious and proficient, and definitely puts a lot more thought and effort into it than the common run of clickbaiters. He also seems to resist the urge to comment immediately, generally (but not always) only commenting on accidents with a lot of paper already printed about them. Not suggesting that it's wrong to just ask everyone to read the NTSB report, but people are gonna people, and there are legitimate gradations of Quality, even on YouTube.
 
these guys aren’t even actual qualified accident investigators. i happen to be, but i don’t discuss any conclusions or causes as im not party to the particular investigations. And if i was party to a particular investigation, i wouldn’t be able to speak publicly about it anyway, unless in some official news conference capacity. I’ll discuss observations of “what” from a video or whatever, and even some “how” with things that occur; but i don’t get into the “why” of conclusions, because i don’t have any magical further information or inside-baseball to a particular accident that has occurred, nor know what evidence has been gathered and analyzed, or yet to be gathered and analyzed and correlated.

But i’m also not in it for any profit making and attention-seeking either, under the guise of furthering safety.
But dude you could market yourself as Mike Deeeeeeeeeee and get one of them fancy YouTube awards too
 
But dude you could market yourself as Mike Deeeeeeeeeee and get one of them fancy YouTube awards too
So much money being left on the table. "I'm Mike Deeeeeee, former F-117 and A-10 pilot, current Area 51 pilot, professionally qualified aviation accident investigator. I've forgotten more about aviation than Captain Steeeeeeeve ever knew. Now, let's get into it! Don't forget to ring the bell and subscribe!"

Tragically, Character and Integrity seem to be part of the package.
 
If MikeD started a channel, I'd actually watch it. I don't watch any of them (I only watch cooking and German car channels), but I know that he does. We're on a private fighter pilot FB group where he writes very detailed accident reports, as well as just general combat after-actions, for a bunch of mostly Desert Storm and Vietnam vets. I can't stand most of their politics, but none of Mike's content is political at all. I'm not on FB enough to read all of them, but he normally says "hey did you read my study of this?" and then I go on and read it. He has like 4 jobs I think? Maybe just 3? But he somehow has time for detailed research like this too. I just stood a few feet away from Ward Carrol's table a few weeks ago at tail hook, and I wanted to throw my beer bottle at his f***king sh**bag head. Most of you don't know him, but he is an embarrassment to naval aviation, and goes to that event to hopefully catch active duty junior officers who are drunk enough to tell him the hot goss, which he immediately regurgitates on his channel. It is disgusting. If he wasn't elderly, I'd have swung at him by now. I take major issue with these guys who monetize their, typically very minimal, "experience" in being fighter people. Ward didn't do f**** after his Bosnia deployment which he wrote a book about. Most of them are aggressively bad dudes who were forced out. Recent shenanigans aside, this is a community that generally shoots people in the head when they aren't performing. You could be a several year new JO, a 10-13 year department head, a 16 year CO, or a 20+ year wing commander (CAG) when it happens. I've seen all of those happen. A DCAG was just relieved a day before he became a CAG, last month. For fu*kery in an airplane. The long arm of judgement and the law is never far in this biz. As it should be. What is the phrase? "No slack in light attack"
 
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I don't watch any of them (I only watch cooking and German car channels), but I know that he does.

Slight detour here, because it is JC afterall, but for some reason I'm getting German tractor pulls in my feed now. I guess it is just an extension of my mechanical interests, but I had no idea this was a thing outside of Appalachia, let alone in Germany.

Allison engines are still winners in Europe.

 
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