NetJets crash in Laredo TX

[HeyEng]

Looks like the multiple reports of fire from those on the ground wasn't made up.

"Videos from several security cameras and doorbell cameras were obtained, which showed two instances of fire flaring up around the airplane as it was on final approach."

 

[Roger Roger]

They probably do, but given the fact that they were going back and forth with dispatch/mx, it probably was pushed aside. Once they started getting all of the cascading failures, it was probably too late. Given the • sandwich they had to eat, they did an amazing job getting it down somewhere relatively safe in the middle of nowhere.

From reading the report it looked to me like the fuel leak and low fuel condition developed so fast logging fuel wouldn’t have really helped. We only log fuel every hour-ish.

Also, I’m surprised when the start-gen started coming apart that it didn’t just shear the driveshaft, that’s usually what they’re designed to do to prevent exactly this kind of thing.

 

[Roger Roger]

Curious about the fuel system. Is it possible for the fuel to all leak out from the one side? I don't know squat about the airplane.

What I thought I saw is that the only way for that is if the crossfeed is open, which maybe the crew did at some point for fuel balancing and then got wrapped up in cascading failures and didn’t notice until they got the fuel low lights?

 

[pwttogfk]

From reading the report it looked to me like the fuel leak and low fuel condition developed so fast logging fuel wouldn’t have really helped. We only log fuel every hour-ish.

Also, I’m surprised when the start-gen started coming apart that it didn’t just shear the driveshaft, that’s usually what they’re designed to do to prevent exactly this kind of thing.

Yeah, that bit doesn’t give me warm fuzzies. I’ve had a starter/generator go bad and said shearing kept it from being more than just following the procedure.

 

[Roger Roger]

Yeah, that bit doesn’t give me warm fuzzies. I’ve had a starter/generator go bad and said shearing kept it from being more than just following the procedure.

I’ve heard of a start-gen causing weird vibe issues, to the point of having to use a prop balancer and vibration analysis software to pinpoint which accessory is causing it (based on the gear ratios of the accessory box and the frequency of the vibration) but yeah, they always tell us the shear section is supposed to give before things get to this stage.