Headset question - 737

The only NGs we have that require the rubber band are the 700s. None of the 800s or the 900ER do

Actually….546 still has the flip flop radios. There are also 6 -800s that don’t have alternate destination function in the MCDU.

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There are also zero -800s that fly straight without copious amounts of trim

Our 800s are a weird bunch. The “newer” ones fly all sorts of crooked. The older ones that got overhauled instead of retired because of MAX delays fly pretty darn straight and true,.
 
Our 800s are a weird bunch. The “newer” ones fly all sorts of crooked. The older ones that got overhauled instead of retired because of MAX delays fly pretty darn straight and true,.
Also love the ones where the temp dial has to be cranked to keep from freezing everyone.

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737 FO adjusting climate control and trim in an -800 on climb out (2026, colorized) [yes I know the PF shouldn’t generally be messing with the climate control]
 
Actually….546 still has the flip flop radios. There are also 6 -800s that don’t have alternate destination function in the MCDU.

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Mostly useless function. Some guys love to put alternate and from missed approach.



…except it under guesses the alternate burn (even with alternate cruise wind updated). And it assumes landing with the 45 min reserve. It’s mostly useless.


Very rarely do you go missed from mins and straight to alternate. Most diversions for Wx are because you just held and held forever and now have to punch out. That changes the entire math of bingo fuel, versus from missed approach.




Have at it. But I don’t mess with the Altn destination on Continental domestic. I’ll use it for Hawaiii flights, then I’ll put in both ETOPS alternates and for cruise and 10k ft cases. Just as a reference.
 
Fun flying with a former bus guy that’s droning around on vectors with like 3° of bank because he hasn’t touched the trim since top of climb

So strange to me. The Canabus pretty much trims itself and you don't have to mess with it at all.

Except for the speed trim.

We have to manually speed trim it. If you ever listen to one of our CVRs on climbout, you'll hear the regular required callouts and every couple of seconds "click-click........click......click-click....." as the PF brings the speed trim in line with the speed.

The guys who come over from the 320 absolutely hate it.
 
So strange to me. The Canabus pretty much trims itself and you don't have to mess with it at all.

Except for the speed trim.

We have to manually speed trim it. If you ever listen to one of our CVRs on climbout, you'll hear the regular required callouts and every couple of seconds "click-click........click......click-click....." as the PF brings the speed trim in line with the speed.

The guys who come over from the 320 absolutely hate it.
On top of being crooked, the guppy is just obnoxious to trim for some reason. Part of it is that the slip skid indicator is practically useless. The training department always tells you to just trim the rudder until the yoke is level but that only works if everything is dead straight. So instead you’re left going back to private pilot •-hold the wings level and watch for yaw. Trim out yaw with the rudder, then trim out any yoke force with the aileron. Repeat as needed.

The Lear was just a hair off of center on each (I forget which direction-I think rudder was one way and aileron was the other) and no noticeable change with power or altitude. That’s another thing with the guppy, if you have it trimmed out perfectly by 10k, you’ll have to keep bumping in some right rudder as you climb.

We did have one PC12 in particular that if you trimmed it out at a slow climb (say Vyish) the roll trim would be really out when you accelerated, to the point the autopilot might kick off. But the PC12 yaw damper trimmed the rudder for you.

I miss both of those airplanes.
 
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The Lear yaw damper had a neat (not actually) feature where if you engaged it right after takeoff in turbulence and then accidentally hit the rudder pedals, you could make it freak out and then you’d have to do a CB reset or power cycle to get the autopilot back lol.
 
Also love the ones where the temp dial has to be cranked to keep from freezing everyone.

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737 FO adjusting climate control and trim in an -800 on climb out (2026, colorized) [yes I know the PF shouldn’t generally be messing with the climate control]
*Laughs in MD-80*

Never flew it, but watched many a pilot fiddle with the temperature.

The old joke at AA was, "How can you tell which passengers just flew in on a Super 80? They have beads of sweat frozen to their foreheads."
 
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