United Nosewheel goes *pow*

[KLB]

I’m checked out 30 seconds into my FO’s 7 min brief. If Huggies was in charge, we would brief threats and that’s it. Briefs are starting to become like NOTAMS, you’re really not getting anything out of them, but they’re there on the FDR (FP) for the lawyers.

Yep. There is no way to retain all the info being briefed in anything over 1 minute the rest of it is like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher.

 

[ASpilot2be]

Even with that, if the common things such as EPs on takeoff and what to do when, are standard items, which everyone should know, can just be briefed as “standard”. Saving the actual talking for things particular to this airport initial climbout instructions, altitudes, SID, whatever.

a number of pilots companies forget the word brief, in briefing.

FIFY. It's not always the pilots, it's the companies making a huge list of required items.

 

[MikeD]

FIFY. It's not always the pilots, it's the companies making a huge list of required items.

Indeed, company policies are just as bad in this realm, in terms of making something that is supposed to be for safety, into something very inefficient in its execution.

 

[N826AW]

Some of you have not LIVED until you've sat through a Pacific Southwest Airlines brief.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

next cq finna be the introduction of the DEROTATION BRIEFING

Maybe a good idea? Flown with way too many pilots who think flying is over once the main wheels touch down. Or worse, the guys who then PUSH the nose down to “plant it” , somehow thinking the physics of lift over their wing will magically disappear the quicker they plant the nose wheel into the ground.

The results are usually predictable.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

FIFY. It's not always the pilots, it's the companies making a huge list of required items.

Our shop has it down good with the threats, plans, consideration briefing. We don’t do the rote briefings of the past.

 

[ASpilot2be]

Some of you have not LIVED until you've sat through a Pacific Southwest Airlines brief.

Or an Air Beachball one.

 

[jhugz]

Maybe a good idea? Flown with way too many pilots who think flying is over once the main wheels touch down. Or worse, the guys who then PUSH the nose down to “plant it” , somehow thinking the physics of lift over their wing will magically disappear the quicker they plant the nose wheel into the ground.

The results are usually predictable.

I actually see this a lot too in the 73. Coming from the 76,74 I’m vigilant on this. You can do a lot of damage with a bad derotation on those birds. The 73 is more forgiving but it’s still bad technique I try to mentor.

 

[MikeD]

I actually see this a lot too in the 73. Coming from the 76,74 I’m vigilant on this. You can do a lot of damage with a bad derotation on those birds. The 73 is more forgiving but it’s still bad technique I try to mentor.

Why it’s so difficult for some people to simply just fly the nose down to the runway, I can never understand. Letting it fall, or worse pushing forward on the yoke and forcing it down, makes me seriously scratch my head with what it is they are trying to accomplish.

 

[jhugz]

Why it’s so difficult for some people to simply just fly the nose down to the runway, I can never understand. Letting it fall, or worse pushing forward on the yoke and forcing it down, makes me seriously scratch my head with what it is they are trying to accomplish.

Agreed, but I’ve also seen the flip side where people think a 73 is a F-16 and have to aerodynamic brake.

 

[MikeD]

Agreed, but I’ve also seen the flip side where people think a 73 is a F-16 and have to aerodynamic brake.

Agreed, no requirement for that either, as nothing gained by it in this airframe, unlike others. Just a nose gear flown nicely and controlled, down to the runway, suffices and keeps things from being unnecessarily stressed or broken. Seems easy enough, one would think.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Agreed, but I’ve also seen the flip side where people think a 73 is a F-16 and have to aerodynamic brake.

“HOW YA DOING CONDOR”

 

[Skåning]

Agreed, but I’ve also seen the flip side where people think a 73 is a F-16 and have to aerodynamic brake.

Y'all dont do wheelies once in a while??

 

[knot4u]

Y'all dont do wheelies once in a while??

I don't know much about it but I think wheelies are cool as long as you don't abuse the airplane.

 

[Beep]

Only on Wednesdays.

Y'all dont do wheelies once in a while??

 

[///AMG]

I must need more zoom, can't tell what you all are on about. Looked good to me!

 

[Roger Roger]

For as much crap as the prior VX’ers give the 737, most say they would rather a nasty crosswind in it vs the bus. That’s about thee only thing tho haha

I would crosswind land the crap out of a 700. The scimitars and the long body worries me a little

 

[Roger Roger]

On the other hand, any given amount of crosswind matters less when you’re coming in at 160 knots….

 

[Skåning]

The other video I saw was apparently taken from the crew of that Sun Country 737 holding short.

*Allegiant

Maybe they were empty, but I thought this was a no-no.

 

[Roger Roger]

Agreed, no requirement for that either, as nothing gained by it in this airframe, unlike others. Just a nose gear flown nicely and controlled, down to the runway, suffices and keeps things from being unnecessarily stressed or broken. Seems easy enough, one would think.

One would think too that using roll input as needed to maintain wings level on the takeoff roll and through rotation would be simple enough as well, yet there seems to be a common opinion out there that it’s more important to not activate any spoiler.