NASCAR driver and family in plane crash

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Not much details yet but it sounds like local reports are that Greg Biffle and his entire family were killed in the crash, along with the crew.
 
Maybe, possible, suggest....

The race to be breaking news, even if it isn't accurate or complete.
 
Wardogg said:
No body in the news media is reporting it yet it. Reports are still full of the maybes and “possiblies”. He’s commenting on the news versions.

Capt Sum Ting Wong agrees with him.
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I'll go back and find the articles but I read two that confirmed it.
 
Airport has been LIFR all morning. Ground track sure doesn’t look like he was setup for an approach.


KSVH 181715Z AUTO 02003KT 2 1/2SM RA OVC004 06/06 A3013 RMK AO2 T00600057 - 1h 28m
KSVH 181655Z AUTO 00000KT 2 1/2SM BR OVC004 06/06 A3015 RMK AO2 P0001 T00580056 - 1h 48m
 
CFIscare said:
This video shows initial impact short of the runway.


View: https://x.com/Turbinetraveler/status/2001699333079769224/mediaViewer?currentTweet=2001699333079769224&currentTweetUser=Turbinetraveler


I’m not a NASCAR fan so I don’t know too much about him but here’s a nice segment talking about his relief work following Hurricane Helene.


View: https://youtu.be/QehE9Qnbwco?si=I5y7DPeHbNqFtPXg
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Not a reflection on him, but that rotary wing relief work in western NC was a hot f'n mess. I talk regularly to the AVL folks and they say it's nothing short of a miracle that they weren't colliding into each other. That was back when FEMA was like "hey, appreciate the offer but there's a lot going on" and then guys with helicopters just went all LEEEEEEROOY JEEEENKINS! on it.
 
Wardogg said:
Airport has been LIFR all morning. Ground track sure doesn’t look like he was setup for an approach.


KSVH 181715Z AUTO 02003KT 2 1/2SM RA OVC004 06/06 A3013 RMK AO2 T00600057 - 1h 28m
KSVH 181655Z AUTO 00000KT 2 1/2SM BR OVC004 06/06 A3015 RMK AO2 P0001 T00580056 - 1h 48m
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No, the Carolina Aviators group has at least one member that was on board so they've been posting a lot today. The flight profile looks like something went wrong after departure and they tried to make it back in a hurry.
 
CFI A&P said:
Not a dig at you, but the practice of rushing to release a partial or incorrect statement before waiting for facts is where I take issue. The original post says "there are reports that ___ may have been..."
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Right.

The first couple of articles I read were speculating he was onboard because he owned the aircraft, when he apparently also chartered it out. It seemed a bit reckless to me too.
 
Garrett (aka Cletus) and Biffle were close. If he says Greg and his family were on the plane then they were most likely on the plane.
 
Murdoughnut said:
Not a reflection on him, but that rotary wing relief work in western NC was a hot f'n mess. I talk regularly to the AVL folks and they say it's nothing short of a miracle that they weren't colliding into each other. That was back when FEMA was like "hey, appreciate the offer but there's a lot going on" and then guys with helicopters just went all LEEEEEEROOY JEEEENKINS! on it.
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Called freelancing. And whether disaster relief, a firefighting scene, or any other chaotic environment where some semblance of centralized command, control, and asset accountability is trying to be maintained, freelancing is highly frowned upon. Check in with the incident commander, see where that person wants assets staged to pull from if not being used already, and work within the system in place, assuming that has been established. Work to help the problem at hand, not add to it,
 
MikeD said:
Called freelancing. And whether disaster relief, a firefighting scene, or any other chaotic environment where some semblance of centralized command, control, and asset accountability is trying to be maintained, freelancing is highly frowned upon. Check in with the incident commander, see where that person wants assets staged to pull from if not being used already, and work within the system in place, assuming that has been established. Work to help the problem at hand, not add to it,
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Even beyond that, think about the type of men who own helicopters for private use. Statistically, they're likely not going to be people that are going to take directions or recommendations from anyone, but are likely to maintain a high propensity for savior complex. General aviation at large has that, but I think the private helicopter set is like Jerry on steroids.
 
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