UPS MD-11 crash at SDF

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MikeD said:
I believe that’s where it came from. They were at something like V2+12 or so (I don’t remember the exact, but that’s close), and the jet was flying fine. The crew had no idea they were instant test pilots at that time, sadly. The training was to slow back to V2, for climb performance and/or obstacle/terrain clearance I imagine, but that did them in.

Me personally, in the jets I’ve flown….mostly being power-deficient ones compared to weight…. on a single engine Go, we were always trained that speed is life, get as much as you can and keep it in the bank to use as you come back around to land. Never give it up unless its needed. Especially if it’s VMC and terrain/obstacle avoidance visually isn’t an issue.
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Wasn't there also a difference in stick shaker on that AA airplane? FO was pilot flying and AA hadn't opted for the optional FO side shaker. And electric to CA side was cut when the engine came off? Going from memory - haven't read that report in a long time.
 
WacoFan said:
Wasn't there also a difference in stick shaker on that AA airplane? FO was pilot flying and AA hadn't opted for the optional FO side shaker. And electric to CA side was cut when the engine came off? Going from memory - haven't read that report in a long time.
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Correct
 
WacoFan said:
Wasn't there also a difference in stick shaker on that AA airplane? FO was pilot flying and AA hadn't opted for the optional FO side shaker. And electric to CA side was cut when the engine came off? Going from memory - haven't read that report in a long time.
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That is correct. The stick shaker motor was only on the Capt side, powered by the left side components. Second stick shaker on FO side was a customer option that AA didn’t elect to purchase.
 
The wing made a huge gash through the roof of this UPS Supply Chains Solutions warehouse. Can you imagine being inside?
 

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Ugh...I personally know several over at Brown (former AMF trash...a few in my seniority range over there took the UPS pathway deal). Glad to see 1 person I know on that fleet was not on board, but still waiting on confirmation on others (don't actually know what fleets they're on). Terrible situation though. 2 of my cousins happen to live in SDF and load planes for UPS, but they're both night shift guys, so neither were at work to witness it. Rip to those lost.
 
One video I saw, slowed down from original, pretty clearly shows something go through the #2 engine and associated (much smaller) flame. Obviously unknowable if that was FOD, or if so, if the FOD damaged the engine or simply blew through it. But I'm guessing loss of thrust on both those engines at such a critical time is not built into the engine failure climb assumptions?
 
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One video I saw, slowed down from original, pretty clearly shows something go through the #2 engine and associated (much smaller) flame. Obviously unknowable if that was FOD, or if so, if the FOD damaged the engine or simply blew through it. But I'm guessing loss of thrust on both those engines at such a critical time is not built into the engine failure climb assumptions?
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Yeah like I mentioned before, there is some kind of flash there, brief like a compressor stall or FOD. Again, FDR will tell for sure whether it is or not, but worth looking at,
 
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