Expect more holding for EWR

[NovemberEcho]

Agreed, and now imagine with the incompetence we’ve seen out of this administration how much worse it will get.

Now I will say, in all fairness, with my feelings towards this current admin well known, that we have gotten 100% more feedback from Duffy than we ever got from Buttigieg. I have a feeling this is due to the DCA collision, but nonetheless.

 

[DropTank]

Let's see, critical infrastructure... infamously low bandwidth...
Used all of the money on fiber.
No money left for a satellite backup...
Not even an Ancient dialup (which is all it really needs)
Even a cheap VOIP would have done.

Nope... single point failure.

What do you want to bet that there is no back up power supply, short or long term.

 

[GroundPilot]

Oh yeahhhhh

Advisory 26 EWR AND EWR SATELLITE AIRPORTS ARRIVAL DELAYS​

EVENT TIME: 03/1420 - 4/0200
CONSTRAINED FACILITIES: ZNY
USERS CAN EXPECT ARRIVAL DELAYS / AIRBORNE HOLDING INTO THE NEWARK AND NEWARK SATELLITE AIRPORTS OF
UP TO 30 MINUTES DUE TO EQUIPMENT OUTAGE. UPDATES WILL FOLLOW IF NECESSARY.
EWR SATELLITE AIRPORTS INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO PHL AREA-C MUGSY SECTOR AIRPORTS SUCH AS TEB,
MMU ,CDW, AND LDJ
031420 - 040200
25/10/03 14:20

 

[GolfChuck]

Oh yeahhhhh

Advisory 26 EWR AND EWR SATELLITE AIRPORTS ARRIVAL DELAYS​

EVENT TIME: 03/1420 - 4/0200
CONSTRAINED FACILITIES: ZNY
USERS CAN EXPECT ARRIVAL DELAYS / AIRBORNE HOLDING INTO THE NEWARK AND NEWARK SATELLITE AIRPORTS OF
UP TO 30 MINUTES DUE TO EQUIPMENT OUTAGE. UPDATES WILL FOLLOW IF NECESSARY.
EWR SATELLITE AIRPORTS INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO PHL AREA-C MUGSY SECTOR AIRPORTS SUCH AS TEB,
MMU ,CDW, AND LDJ
031420 - 040200
25/10/03 14:20

So I guess we controllers are "equipment" now. MUGSY was closed most of the day for staffing. Departure delays were over an hour and flight following requests were denied. Pay nothing, get nothing.

 

[NovemberEcho]

So I guess we controllers are "equipment" now. MUGSY was closed most of the day for staffing. Departure delays were over an hour and flight following requests were denied. Pay nothing, get nothing.

The radios were giving issues again. Staffing yesterday was normal for a Friday,

 

[killbilly]

Like it was day 1 of working the audio panel

This was me yesterday after a short ferry flight from YMX to BOS. For the life of me, I couldn’t make, or read back, a radio call correctly to save my life. Horribly embarrassing.

The CA I was with was a very good sport about my sudden incompetence. Up to that point I’d been an almost model FO.

 

[Minuteman]

Is that a lot for one Sunday? It seems like things are being run quite thin.

STAFFING TRIGGER(S):
UNTIL 1400    -ZDC AREA 6
UNTIL 1400    -ZTL AREA 2
UNTIL 1500    -PHL AREA C
UNTIL 1545    -A80 OPERATIONS
UNTIL 1700    -ZTL AREA 2
UNTIL 1800    -ZID AREA 5
UNTIL 1830    -PHX OPERATIONS
UNTIL 1900    -ZDC AREA 6
UNTIL 2000    -DEN OPERATIONS
UNTIL 0100    -PHL AREA C
UNTIL 0100    -ZDC AREA 6
UNTIL 0200    -ZDC AREA 5
UNTIL 0200    -ZJX AREA 5
UNTIL 0200    -ZDV AREA 5
UNTIL 0200    -ZDV AREA 4
UNTIL 0500    -C90 TRACON
UNTIL 0530    -PHX ATCT
UNTIL 0530    -ZAB AREA EAST
UNTIL 0700    -SFO ATCT

 

[NovemberEcho]

Is that a lot for one Sunday? It seems like things are being run quite thin.

STAFFING TRIGGER(S):
UNTIL 1400    -ZDC AREA 6
UNTIL 1400    -ZTL AREA 2
UNTIL 1500    -PHL AREA C
UNTIL 1545    -A80 OPERATIONS
UNTIL 1700    -ZTL AREA 2
UNTIL 1800    -ZID AREA 5
UNTIL 1830    -PHX OPERATIONS
UNTIL 1900    -ZDC AREA 6
UNTIL 2000    -DEN OPERATIONS
UNTIL 0100    -PHL AREA C
UNTIL 0100    -ZDC AREA 6
UNTIL 0200    -ZDC AREA 5
UNTIL 0200    -ZJX AREA 5
UNTIL 0200    -ZDV AREA 5
UNTIL 0200    -ZDV AREA 4
UNTIL 0500    -C90 TRACON
UNTIL 0530    -PHX ATCT
UNTIL 0530    -ZAB AREA EAST
UNTIL 0700    -SFO ATCT

Yes that’s a lot.

 

[NovemberEcho]

Starting at 6pm tonight we are down to 2 controllers and a supervisors who isn’t fully certified.

 

[Minuteman]

Management FAFO, 26 per hour at EWR!

CTL ELEMENT: EWR ELEMENT TYPE: APT ADL TIME: 2030Z DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: UDP ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 06/2130Z - 07/0459Z CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 06/2130Z - 07/0459Z PROGRAM RATE: 34/30/26/26/26/26/26/26 FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP DEP SCOPE: (MANUAL) ZLA ZAU ZLC ZTL ZDC ZNY ZHU ZJX ZFW ZOB ZDV ZOA ZSE ZBW ZMA ZKC ZME ZID ZAB ZMP CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: CYHZ CYOW CYUL CYYZ CYTZ CYQB CYVR CYYJ CYLW CYEG CYYC DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZNY MAXIMUM DELAY: 117 AVERAGE DELAY: 53 IMPACTING CONDITION: STAFFING / STAFFING COMMENTS: ARRIVE 22L AND DEPT 22R. MED POP-UP AND TIMES VIA STATUS.	CTL ELEMENT: DEN ELEMENT TYPE: APT ADL TIME: 1838Z DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: UDP ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 06/2145Z - 07/0429Z CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 06/2145Z - 07/0429Z PROGRAM RATE: 64 FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP DEP SCOPE: (MANUAL) ZLA ZAU ZLC ZTL ZDC ZNY ZHU ZJX ZFW ZOB ZDV ZOA ZSE ZBW ZMA ZKC ZME ZID ZAB ZMP CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: CYVR CYYJ CYLW CYYC CYEG CYYZ CYTZ CYOW CYUL CYQB DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZDV MAXIMUM DELAY: 95 AVERAGE DELAY: 39 IMPACTING CONDITION: STAFFING / STAFFING COMMENTS: ARRIVE 35R, 34R. DEPART 34L, 8. MODIFIED LOW POP UP. TIME PLUS 45.
CTL ELEMENT: BUR ELEMENT TYPE: APT ADL TIME: 2247Z DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: UDP ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 06/2300Z - 07/0459Z CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 06/2300Z - 07/0459Z PROGRAM RATE: 5 FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP DEP SCOPE: 1400 CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: NONE DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZLA MAXIMUM DELAY: 235 AVERAGE DELAY: 151 IMPACTING CONDITION: STAFFING / OCL: STAFFING COMMENTS: BUR TOWER ATC ZERO. RATE REDUCED DUE TO STAFFING AND TWY CONSTRUCTION ON A CAUSING MULTIPLE RUNWAY CROSSINGS.	STAFFING TRIGGER(S): 2300 0100 -PHL AREA C UNTIL 0100 -D21 TRACON UNTIL 0200 -ZJX NORTH AREA UNTIL 0200 -ZJX CENTRAL AREA UNTIL 0215 -ZID AREA 3 UNTIL 0300 -ZDV AREA 5 2330 0400 -ZDC AREA 1 UNTIL 0400 -DEN ATCT 2315 0445 -BUR ATCT 0115 0500 -C90 OPERATIONS 2300 0500 -PHX ATCT 0000 0500 -P50 OPERATIONS

 

[Minuteman]

Niraj Chokshi we see yo' ass.

Flight Delays Begin as Air Traffic Staffing Shortages Worsen

The delays came just hours after the transportation secretary warned that flying could be disrupted by the government shutdown.

www.nytimes.com

The delays, which were caused by staffing shortages, according to the F.A.A. advisories, came not long after the transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, warned that air service could be disrupted by the government shutdown.
“If we think there’s issues in the airspace, we will shut it down,” he said. “We will close it down. We will delay.”

 

[phill1174]

Yikes All I can say is be vigilant out there. Seems like a prime time for the Swiss cheese holes to start aligning. Might be dumb luck that i caught a stomach virus and had to call out.