American September 2025

SideStickEnergy said:
I must need to venture out from the under the rock I was living under. This would be news to me. As far as I'm aware, we are still supposed to be going to FPM.
Click to expand...
Yep my mistake. FKYs keeps coming up in convo lately. So with the two dispatch softwares both being three letter acronyms starting with F’s, it got mistaken somewhere and I repeated it. But understood... FPM not FKYs.

Too bad you’re not getting FKYs though…

IMG_7251.jpeg
 
Looks like envoy management is up to its old tricks. They screwed over some last year by not letting them test with AA. They had recurrent training and the envoy Nazis wouldn't let them out of it to test. Looks like they are doing the same this year as the manager sent out an email basically stating too bad so sad if you can't test. And don't even think about calling in sick and going to test.

That's just plain horrible to treat people like that.
 
Nearest Alternate said:
Looks like envoy management is up to its old tricks. They screwed over some last year by not letting them test with AA. They had recurrent training and the envoy Nazis wouldn't let them out of it to test. Looks like they are doing the same this year as the manager sent out an email basically stating too bad so sad if you can't test. And don't even think about calling in sick and going to test.

That's just plain horrible to treat people like that.
Click to expand...
Why not just use vacation time?
 
Recurrent training is specific to that dispatcher. It can't be put out for OT coverage, and it isn't as simple as just spreading a few flights around the office. Every airline I've worked for is much less tolerant of training absences than for regular shifts, you need to have a good reason and proof.

It isn't horrible for an airline to expect their employees to attend required training rather than call out to go test and interview for somewhere else....
 
TAF_Master said:
Recurrent training is specific to that dispatcher. It can't be put out for OT coverage, and it isn't as simple as just spreading a few flights around the office. Every airline I've worked for is much less tolerant of training absences than for regular shifts, you need to have a good reason and proof.

It isn't horrible for an airline to expect their employees to attend required training rather than call out to go test and interview for somewhere else....
Click to expand...
Here is the thing. Most airlines run multiple recurrent classes and I am sure Envoy is no different. What would prevent the dispatcher from going to recurrent on a different day to make up the missed class on one of his/her days off? This happens all the time at my carrier.

Now if Envoy found out about the hiring interviews and then scheduled recurrent on the same days deliberately to prevent the interviews that is some shady stuff. I am going to guess that AA probably didn't consult with Envoy about the recurrent schedule there before scheduling these interviews, because AA would probably hire every Envoy applicant if they could just provided they could do the job and haven't ticked off a lot of people over there.
 
Envoy does not let them reschedule recurrent. Does not let them take vacation during recurrent. If AA tests the same week as recurrent then tough. I know it's difficult to believe people would act like this but they do.
 
BruinsFan said:
Here is the thing. Most airlines run multiple recurrent classes and I am sure Envoy is no different. What would prevent the dispatcher from going to recurrent on a different day to make up the missed class on one of his/her days off? This happens all the time at my carrier.

Now if Envoy found out about the hiring interviews and then scheduled recurrent on the same days deliberately to prevent the interviews that is some shady stuff. I am going to guess that AA probably didn't consult with Envoy about the recurrent schedule there before scheduling these interviews, because AA would probably hire every Envoy applicant if they could just provided they could do the job and haven't ticked off a lot of people over there.
Click to expand...
If it's that much of a preference, there would be a seniority based flow program agreement similar to the pilots rather than relying on luck of the draw who has recurrent and who doesn't on the days in question.

More likely, AA as a legacy airline has hundreds of applications. Including Envoy dispatchers who do not have recurrent on the days in question, PSA and Piedmont dispatchers, internals and all sorts of other external applicants. They will have no problems filling the class.
 
Last thing I heard was they were still awaiting approval for the actual number they can hire from accounting. They were hoping for 20-30 possibly but this will likely come in a little less. I assume they may be waiting for this before moving on but can't say for sure.
 
Seniority? Pssh. BuT iT iSn'T CRJs ForEvEr.
Christmas is whenever you decide it. Deicing season and frozen equipment are both additional components. American took that into consideration and went for making everyone deal with DFW.
jc0504 said:
They sent out interview offer today
Click to expand...
He fit right in at place



Good luck, all!
 
Got word that a couple internals got interview/assessments for 10/1 and 10/3. Not sure if they have started sending invites to externals yet.
 
Meh123 said:
I wonder if they are doing a class with internals and then a class with Envoy and Externals
Click to expand...
We’d more likely have a class of all Envoy, that’s the majority of our new hires. Then a second class of externals with a small handful of internals. But nothing set in stone.

We always offer interviews to internals first. So if you’re external keep your eyes open. They’re still coming.
 
MountainsOrBeach said:
We’d more likely have a class of all Envoy, that’s the majority of our new hires. Then a second class of externals with a small handful of internals. But nothing set in stone.

We always offer interviews to internals first. So if you’re external keep your eyes open. They’re still coming.
Click to expand...
So pretty much envoy and other airlines dx take priority than internals
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top