AA3023 Incident. DEN - MIA, July 26 2025

[MikeD]

Looks like no one assists at the bottom of the slides anymore?

 

[JordanD]

Looks like no one assists at the bottom of the slides anymore?

Doesn’t surprise me these days

 

[Murdoughnut]

It should be a reg and part of the safety briefing. "in the event of an evacuation, any person carrying any form of luggage will be subject to a misdemeanor and minimum fine of $5000."

Locking overhead bins is another solution. Given the size of some of these bags, people were clearly going into the bins.

 

[Murdoughnut]

Doesn’t surprise me these days

Too busy filming

 

[WacoFan]

Locking overhead bins is another solution. Given the size of some of these bags, people were clearly going into the bins.

I am on a weird "airplane anorexia" kick where I am looking for planes and am kind of obsessed with the weight. Like various Waco's, depending on who restored it and how (interior/avionics choices, covering system and finish used, etc) the weight can vary widely even on the same models like a UPF-7. A light UPF with no cowl or wheel pants, no interior, no avionics, not a hand rubbed, 30 coats of dope finish - is a remarkably delightful machine. Key being "light". With that said, a kind of simple lock for the overhead that can be operated remotely from the cockpit or by FA's would be an excellent safety investment for added weight.

 

[scooter2525]

Doesn’t surprise me these days

 

[Wardogg]

US carriers absolutely have been including that instruction for years.

Current United safety video (about a year old) starting at the relevant section

View: https://youtu.be/Jep3RR2yEXA?feature=shared&t=118

A current AA video

View: https://youtu.be/pj6wJiJuNds?feature=shared&t=92

Delta (2 years ago)

View: https://youtu.be/gM2_sSHML3w?feature=shared&t=112


And a version for united from 17 years ago, again relevant section linked

View: https://youtu.be/sqS70iblfSQ?feature=shared&t=194

AA (15 years ago)

View: https://youtu.be/lMJAD7984PU?feature=shared&t=153

I commute. A lot. Here’s the problem with those videos. No one and I mean no one is watching them much less processing the information being given to them in them. Everyone is either on their phone during that video or is already trying to go to sleep.

Honestly the most I’ve ever seen anyone pay attention to the safety briefings is on Southwest when the FAs do or say something funny before it starts. Other than that on any given carrier in any given form no one is paying attention.

And even if they are a brand new flyer and do pay attention to the video do you honestly think they remember any of it in a panic when the airplane is literally on fire?

There’s only one absolute solution to this problem. Get rid of carry-ons

 

[mwflyer]

There’s only one absolute solution to this problem. Get rid of carry-ons

I like the locking bins idea from @Murdoughnut. Something controlled by the FA’s with a switch for takeoff and landing. Basically bins locked below 10K.

 

[Minuteman]

Paddle arms that swing-down from the ovehead into the aisle every 10 seconds or so to push people along. They could be used during normal operations, with the benefit of being able to swing in both directions for boarding as well.

 

[melax]

Locking overhead bins is another solution. Given the size of some of these bags, people were clearly going into the bins.

Yep I've advocated that for years, Locking overhead bins controlled by the FA's. Locked during taxi T/O and landing phase just like the Seat belt sign. Oh wait, better yet... the overhead bins locks automatically when the seat belt sign is illuminated.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Doesn’t surprise me these days

If they're bringing their roll-aboards there's no way they're going to stop and stabilize the slides to help their fellow passengers.

 

[Minuteman]

I never realized the 737 does not have slides for the overwing exits. That's probably one reason those people were all milling-around on top of the wing (also there was a fire and trucks spraying foam where they would land off the slide).


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDYbiYA7c4

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I never realized the 737 does not have slides for the overwing exits. That's probably one reason those people were all milling-around on top of the wing (also there was a fire and trucks spraying foam where they would land off the slide).


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDYbiYA7c4

Indeed not, and yet another reason it's long-past time.

 

[derg]

What in tarnation?! The flight left the gate and taxied to Runway 8, lined-up and then exited at the first taxiway.

Then taxied to Runway 17L, lined-up, and again exited at the first taxiway.

Then taxied ALLL the way across the airport to finally attempt at takeoff on 34R. ADS-B data indicates a fastest reported speed of 117 kts before coming to a stop just after the first high-speed, D6.

edit: 26JUL 19:14Z through 20:16Z if yer looking for the audio.

Wait wait wait, WHAT?

Now I have to wait until “first break” to read about this!

@Tommay85, check in!

 

[derg]

Looks like no one assists at the bottom of the slides anymore?

FAA be like:

 

[AirmetTango]

There’s only one absolute solution to this problem. Get rid of carry-ons

Unfortunately, that exacerbates the risk of uncontrollable fires from lithium ion batteries from a thousand PEDs that would then be riding in the baggage compartments.

I like the locking bins idea from @Murdoughnut. Something controlled by the FA’s with a switch for takeoff and landing. Basically bins locked below 10K.

I really like this idea - solves the problem with idiots grabbing bags during evac, and allows any fires from batteries to be potentially addressed before they get out of control.

 

[Roger Roger]

This is going to read exactly as the United blown tire report a few months back in Denver. I’ll bet on it.

If only it were possible to equip the airplane with a way to measure how hot the brakes were during an extended taxi

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

If only it were possible to equip the airplane with a way to measure how hot the brakes were during an extended taxi

Meh. I’d rather people learn how to actually use brakes and how carbon v steel works.

 

[Wardogg]

I like the locking bins idea from @Murdoughnut. Something controlled by the FA’s with a switch for takeoff and landing. Basically bins locked below 10K.

Well that stops the roller bags. But not the back packs and bags under the seats.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

If only it were possible to equip the airplane with a way to measure how hot the brakes were during an extended taxi

Energy in = energy out!