DCA near miss Delta/Bluestreak vs AF T-38

BobDDuck said:
It's a 5 minute walk at most.

The Silver Line (no, not the BOS one) is a 20+ minute walk from the time you clear the secure area.
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in IAD? maybe if the moving walkways are broken and you dont know where the escalators are. I did that commute for a while and it was an hour from inside security to inside security DCA-IAD, maybe ten minute walk to KCM.
 
Hammertime said:
1. I don't live there, and-
2. Dulles definitely needs some work. They need to make the train work correctly, but...
3. New terminal being built, hopefully that's the first step in making it a much better place.
4. If I'm honest, I'm hearing a lot of "first world problems" in these complaints. I've done that walk. It is not 20+ minutes unless you're 80. I could go from the A terminal to well past the train station in 20 minutes.

DCA does not work. I knew that the first time I flew in there. I know there's a lot of widget folks here, so I may be in the minority here, but I'm wondering what banning the sale of connecting tickets would do to DCA traffic levels.

We would welcome the connecting traffic at the proper international hub down the road 😜
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You don't live here.

While everyone likes to say "It's Congress's personal little airport" - that's a sample of 535 people, when the population of DC proper is around 700,000, and the parts of VA and MD 'inside the beltway' is around 1.8M people.

That 20 minute walk from the Metro to security can be done in your standard-pilot-fast walk in less time. Then once through security it's at least another 20 minutes and a bunch of escalators to get to various gates, depending on the time of day and whether or not the sandcrawlers are operating on schedule. And during a bank, those guys can get jammed up on the ramp because so many planes are pushing at the same time.

IAD is a really neat idea that is really poorly executed. It's got the sprawl of ATL without the arteries to move people around effectively. It's the international gateway to the capital with signs only in English. And it's connected to the major population center by an intolerably infrequent rail system that takes 45 minutes to an hour just to get to one of the major hubs at L'Enfant Plaza or Gallery Place. If you have to go between airports you will change trains a minimum of twice.

If you force 1.8M people to stop using DCA and start using IAD/BWI exclusively, you're going to see traffic problems that make LA and NY look like the Nurburgring.

ChasenSFO said:
That is objectively a great idea, as Andrews is still much better than IAD for the DCA area.
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It's an objectively terrible idea for all of the infrastructure reasons cited above and some that are not. The area around ADW is mostly 2/4-lane B-roads, little to no public transit access, and difficulty feeding to those B-roads from at least two sides; it's marginally better on the near side of 495.

Now....what would alleviate some of the pressure would be making BWI more accessible to those who live on the VA side of the Potomac. VA has successfully fought efforts to build additional bridges across the river, which would allow most of the communities on the north and west sides of DC (think along the I-66/267 corridor and into McLean, N. Potomac, Bethesda, Silver Spring, etc) a convenient way to access BWI, which is a terrific airport. But because the American Legion Bridge is a godawful chokepoint it makes travel out of BWI impractical, and IAD inconvenient.
 
RORO said:
I got a second, bigger, wallet and some dime bags from Amazon and put all that spare foreign currency in my luggage. It really annoyed me for the loose cash to be unorganized or in my wallet. Reminded me of that seinfeld episode.

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Do i need Indonesian Rupiah? No.
Am I gonna throw Indonesian Rupiah away? Also no.
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Too funny, I do the same thing.
 
While we stare with mouths agape at the controller fight, know that the same things happen in the airlines, we’re certainly not immune.

I know a guy who literally broke the jaw of his captain, intentionally, on a layover.
Slap-fights in the cockpit.
Oh, and one from the way back file, when I was a flight instructor, there was another instructor who my students called “Nazi Boy” because, well, obvious reasons. He gets hired by Trans States, “something happens” and he physically attacked his captain on the ramp in full view of the terminal and his social media profile became “After a career in the airline business, I decided to return to the profession I truly love, Flight Instruction”.
 
derg said:
While we stare with mouths agape at the controller fight, know that the same things happen in the airlines, we’re certainly not immune.

I know a guy who literally broke the jaw of his captain, intentionally, on a layover.
Slap-fights in the cockpit.
Oh, and one from the way back file, when I was a flight instructor, there was another instructor who my students called “Nazi Boy” because, well, obvious reasons. He gets hired by Trans States, “something happens” and he physically attacked his captain on the ramp in full view of the terminal and his social media profile became “After a career in the airline business, I decided to return to the profession I truly love, Flight Instruction”.
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WORLDSTAR

 
derg said:
While we stare with mouths agape at the controller fight, know that the same things happen in the airlines, we’re certainly not immune.

I know a guy who literally broke the jaw of his captain, intentionally, on a layover.
Slap-fights in the cockpit.
Oh, and one from the way back file, when I was a flight instructor, there was another instructor who my students called “Nazi Boy” because, well, obvious reasons. He gets hired by Trans States, “something happens” and he physically attacked his captain on the ramp in full view of the terminal and his social media profile became “After a career in the airline business, I decided to return to the profession I truly love, Flight Instruction”.
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My first day of OE, I watched a knife fight between a ramper and fueler in the ops trailer in PHL.
 
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Skåning said:
WORLDSTAR

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ahhhh the A gates... a step up from the G gates, but not a large step!

I remember being a newly minted captain on the Saab, watching 2 captains (one from GoJets, one from Trans States) start fistfighting in the "group" G gates crew room... Those were the days! The guy printing releases on that day was 18 and would eventually serve a term as president of the NGPA and now is an A320 captain/check airman. We all continue upwards but we never forget!
 
derg said:
Too funny, I do the same thing.
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Me three. There are CHF and Euros and pesos and loonies along with USD (most obviously used for hotel van tips) in my little wallet in my flight bag.

Just because this fleet doesn’t go to ZRH or GVA or CDG right now doesn’t mean I won’t need them someday!
 
derg said:
While we stare with mouths agape at the controller fight, know that the same things happen in the airlines, we’re certainly not immune.

I know a guy who literally broke the jaw of his captain, intentionally, on a layover.
Slap-fights in the cockpit.
Oh, and one from the way back file, when I was a flight instructor, there was another instructor who my students called “Nazi Boy” because, well, obvious reasons. He gets hired by Trans States, “something happens” and he physically attacked his captain on the ramp in full view of the terminal and his social media profile became “After a career in the airline business, I decided to return to the profession I truly love, Flight Instruction”.
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There's lore from back in the "little airline that could" days of Frontier about a "champ of the ramp" type situation over a FA who both pilots were, uh, having relations with.
 
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