2 aircraft down in Marana AZ

azmedic said:
I was at Westwind circa 2001 when Pan Am Academy was across the parking lot (later became Transpac) and even then the Northwest practice area was pretty congested. I can only imagine how bad it is now with 5-6 more flight schools in the area


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Now they talk to Luke and go to the SATR west of DVT if Luke can accommodate them. Better to practice maneuvers with an extra pair of eyes watching you and giving advisories every so often.
 
Sculprit said:
Did you instruct of attend there? Was old man G Z there back in your day?
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I instructed there with Keith. Miss that dude. I don’t remember a G Z off the top of my head. I was there probably around the ‘09 time frame without looking at my resume.

Gulley also almost killed himself taking a header of my apartment balcony but that’s another story.
 
touch-n-go said:
Now they talk to Luke and go to the SATR west of DVT if Luke can accommodate them. Better to practice maneuvers with an extra pair of eyes watching you and giving advisories every so often.
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...meanwhile while Varney is talk to Luke... maybe. EVERYONE else is talking on the Rainbow valley unicom. But no one is talk to each other. i.e. Varney planes and EVERYONE else. Super surprised that there hasn't been a midair over there yet.
 
Richman said:
AOPA is hyperventilating about some high traffic airports in Florida using ADSB to charge landing fees.

Conflicted on this, but that is one solution.
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I've told the story before but during my PPL check ride the DPE I was flying with asked me after a bunch of air work to go to Agua Dulce (L70). I did the figuring and the research in the cockpit of my mighty C152 and headed for one of my favorite airports (I honestly was hoping we were going to stop for a chili cheese dog, IYKYK). Did everything correctly approaching a non towered field, CTAF calls, check the windsock, pattern entry and ended up on final. I had the airplane trimmed, on speed and lined up with the runway and suddenly he says "There's an airplane on the runway!". I still had the eyes of a very young man and I was looking through the same clean windshield (there's a reason why it was clean, he had me takeoff out of KVNY into small a rain storm, I quickly decided that flying into a cloud was a bad idea, so without saying a word to him I called KVNY tower and told them I was going off script to avoid clouds, the airplane got a free wash and whatever flight plan I'd been asked to draw up was tossed into the baggage) as he was and I didn't see what he was seeing so I said as much and continued gliding towards what I thought might be a fine landing with thoughts of chopped onions and good chili dancing around in the back of my head. And then he said it again, it was a beautiful day and I had a clear view of the entire airport and with my young eyes I looked at the entire runway and the taxiway and there wasn't an airplane moving anywhere, not even on the ramp. I began to wonder if this dude might've slipped a gear and how I'd handle that but I was almost on the ground and it seemed like the safest option was to just land. Then he said the golden words "go around" so I did. Added power, retracted the flaps and climbed away. Here's the sticky portion that might give some relevance to your post. Some lady came on CTAF demanding all sorts of things so they could charge a landing fee. I was flummoxed, inexperienced and entirely unsure how to handle that and I realized what had happened so I gave the DPE a very hard side eye and he took over the radio for a couple of minutes to argue with the angry lady on CTAF. And then we flew back to KVNY for some pattern work, he had me demonstrate soft field, short field, soft/short field take offs and landings, no flap landings and then we finally taxied to where his office was. I'd barely shut the airplane down when he exited and went sprinting for his office. In hindsight I believe he just really needed to pee. Regardless a few minutes later he came out with my temp PPL and a smile. That flight from KVNY back to KBUR was a proud moment for me, I was not a student, I was a pilot!
 
knot4u said:
I've told the story before but during my PPL check ride the DPE I was flying with asked me after a bunch of air work to go to Agua Dulce (L70). I did the figuring and the research in the cockpit of my mighty C152 and headed for one of my favorite airports (I honestly was hoping we were going to stop for a chili cheese dog, IYKYK). Did everything correctly approaching a non towered field, CTAF calls, check the windsock, pattern entry and ended up on final. I had the airplane trimmed, on speed and lined up with the runway and suddenly he says "There's an airplane on the runway!". I still had the eyes of a very young man and I was looking through the same clean windshield (there's a reason why it was clean, he had me takeoff out of KVNY into small a rain storm, I quickly decided that flying into a cloud was a bad idea, so without saying a word to him I called KVNY tower and told them I was going off script to avoid clouds, the airplane got a free wash and whatever flight plan I'd been asked to draw up was tossed into the baggage) as he was and I didn't see what he was seeing so I said as much and continued gliding towards what I thought might be a fine landing with thoughts of chopped onions and good chili dancing around in the back of my head. And then he said it again, it was a beautiful day and I had a clear view of the entire airport and with my young eyes I looked at the entire runway and the taxiway and there wasn't an airplane moving anywhere, not even on the ramp. I began to wonder if this dude might've slipped a gear and how I'd handle that but I was almost on the ground and it seemed like the safest option was to just land. Then he said the golden words "go around" so I did. Added power, retracted the flaps and climbed away. Here's the sticky portion that might give some relevance to your post. Some lady came on CTAF demanding all sorts of things so they could charge a landing fee. I was flummoxed, inexperienced and entirely unsure how to handle that and I realized what had happened so I gave the DPE a very hard side eye and he took over the radio for a couple of minutes to argue with the angry lady on CTAF. And then we flew back to KVNY for some pattern work, he had me demonstrate soft field, short field, soft/short field take offs and landings, no flap landings and then we finally taxied to where his office was. I'd barely shut the airplane down when he exited and went sprinting for his office. In hindsight I believe he just really needed to pee. Regardless a few minutes later he came out with my temp PPL and a smile. That flight from KVNY back to KBUR was a proud moment for me, I was not a student, I was a pilot!
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I love stories like this.

My PPL check ride was not nearly as intense. Every maneuver and landing was easy, except at the very end when the DPE made me do a no-flap, engine-out, soft field landing. After I somehow pulled a rabbit out of my ass and put it down on the 1000 footers with the stall horn going off, he told me that was “the best engine-out, flaps up, soft field landing [he had] ever seen, better than [the chief pilot of the flight school]”. I was sure to hide from the chief pilot fearing the DPE would actually tell him that I had bested him (the one and only time, I’m sure).
 
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