Oh Boeing, again, again...

[Roger Roger]

Did Trump Executive Orders Further Weaken FAA Oversight?

The FAA has been mandated to take a more collaborative approach with manufacturers and airlines. Two orders from the president that require the FAA to cut regulations further may have tipped the balance, diminishing FAA authority and focusing it on working against its principal priority on safety.

www.forbes.com

Don’t worry the industry will regulate itself

We’ve never tried an economy without worker and consumer protection, labor, and environmental laws, how can you be so sure it would be bad!?!?


*extreme sarcasm* btw

 

[knot4u]

We’ve never tried an economy without worker and consumer protection, labor, and environmental laws, how can you be so sure it would be bad!?!?


*extreme sarcasm* btw

It won WWII.

 

[Hacker15e]

Did Trump Executive Orders Further Weaken FAA Oversight?

The FAA has been mandated to take a more collaborative approach with manufacturers and airlines. Two orders from the president that require the FAA to cut regulations further may have tipped the balance, diminishing FAA authority and focusing it on working against its principal priority on safety.

www.forbes.com

Don’t worry the industry will regulate itself

A collaborative "white hat" FAA that is looking to enhance safety is far, far better than a "black hat" FAA that is based on compliance and penalty. We've experienced the latter for years, and the collateral harassment that it bred was not good.

Certainly the second order effect that we've seen with the FAA delegating a huge amount of authority to the organizations they're supposed to be inspecting isn't good, either.

So, there's an appropriate middle ground that -- surprise! -- a government agency is struggling to find.

There’s a good number of large airport crash rescue units that have a stair truck as one of their vehicles. They never really ever get to use them, less than even the crash trucks themselves. So being able to use it here, was indeed validation! Haha.

I weather diverted into STL, where the company station didn't have stairs to handle a Triple....the CFR guys were practically giggly that they had the opportunity to use their stairs, even if it was an unscheduled 3 am arrival.

 

[Roger Roger]

A collaborative "white hat" FAA that is looking to enhance safety is far, far better than a "black hat" FAA that is based on compliance and penalty. We've experienced the latter for years, and the collateral harassment that it bred was not good.

Certainly the second order effect that we've seen with the FAA delegating a huge amount of authority to the organizations they're supposed to be inspecting isn't good, either.

So, there's an appropriate middle ground that -- surprise! -- a government agency is struggling to find.


I weather diverted into STL, where the company station didn't have stairs to handle a Triple....the CFR guys were practically giggly that they had the opportunity to use their stairs, even if it was an unscheduled 3 am arrival.View attachment 76996

A collaborative approach to safety requires the regulated entity to make a good faith effort at doing things safely, the preponderance of evidence suggests that Boeing (as one would expect of a large company in a modern capitalist ecosystem) is not interested in safety other than its effects on the next quarters numbers.

 

[MikeD]

A collaborative "white hat" FAA that is looking to enhance safety is far, far better than a "black hat" FAA that is based on compliance and penalty. We've experienced the latter for years, and the collateral harassment that it bred was not good.

Certainly the second order effect that we've seen with the FAA delegating a huge amount of authority to the organizations they're supposed to be inspecting isn't good, either.

So, there's an appropriate middle ground that -- surprise! -- a government agency is struggling to find.


I weather diverted into STL, where the company station didn't have stairs to handle a Triple....the CFR guys were practically giggly that they had the opportunity to use their stairs, even if it was an unscheduled 3 am arrival.View attachment 76996

In my over 30 years in aviation, I’ve seen the FAA go back and forth from “zero tolerance FAA” to “kinder and gentler FAA”. The agency can’t seem to find a middle ground with that.

Another airport crash rescue unit that got to use their stair truck! The only thing most of that units who have one ever get to do with it, is function check it and clean it. It rarely ever moves, and its emergency lights never get to be activated. Hence why they are giddy to be able to respond with it!

 

[form810]

I was specifically talking about aviation. I've been a mechanic, a lead mechanic, an inspector, an RII inspector and a chief inspector over the last 30+ years, all 135/145, my scribble does not come cheap. As far as the bolts on a tray, that seems precarious. My simple method for sorting removed hardware when each bolt/screw are different is bulletproof as long as what comes out is actually correct and you prepare before you start. Get a piece of cardboard, draw the approximate shape of whatever it is you're removing on it, count the bolts/screws and put dots in their relative positions, punch holes into the cardboard on those dots, as the bolts/screws are removed put them in their hole in the cardboard. I'll tell you why this seems like a waste of time but actually is a time saver. I've seen a bunch of examples of when a job is starting to get close to being done and suddenly the finish line gets pushed farther away because of a lack of attention to detail. The most common issue is a sealed nut plate that gets damaged by someone trying to install a bolt/screw that's too long. These nut plates are normally only used on the external skin of a wet (fuel) area or the pressure vessel. Mechanic life hack?

Yeah... THAT. That's what I was talking about. But you know, you -and others- have exhorted me to keep it short.

 

[knot4u]

Yeah... THAT. That's what I was talking about. But you know, you -and others- have exhorted me to keep it short.

I speak from a place most folks find credible, and they tend to believe what I write because it's authentic. You are not afforded that courtesy because of the reasons I've repeated to you time and time again. If that's how you choose to go through life I don't care, I'm trying to help. Maybe you have a bank of knowledge that rivals the Library of Alexandria, but without context all of it's just like the library, ashes in the wind.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

His world was, in fact, not on time that night.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Dis wil b good

I doubt Ali Bahrami was influenced by Trump.

 

[Beep]

A collaborative "white hat" FAA that is looking to enhance safety is far, far better than a "black hat" FAA that is based on compliance and penalty. We've experienced the latter for years, and the collateral harassment that it bred was not good.

Certainly the second order effect that we've seen with the FAA delegating a huge amount of authority to the organizations they're supposed to be inspecting isn't good, either.

So, there's an appropriate middle ground that -- surprise! -- a government agency is struggling to find.


I weather diverted into STL, where the company station didn't have stairs to handle a Triple....the CFR guys were practically giggly that they had the opportunity to use their stairs, even if it was an unscheduled 3 am arrival.View attachment 76996

They’re gonna get hop ons!

 

[Hacker15e]

They’re gonna get hop ons!

I did not look back after we departed the aircraft -- it had been a long flight from Osaka, plus about 5 hours of waiting-on-the-ground-for-company-to-decide-time.

For all I know, it could still be there in STL made into a kiddie playground or a homeless encampment.