2022 Christmas meltdown Competition enteries

[ZapBrannigan]

You remember somewhat wrong. After the skyjacking decade, ALPA successfully lobbied to get metal detectors and security checkpoints. They were just manned by crappy contractors. So while you could go the gates, it was still a secure area, and you still had no actual right to be there.

I don't think that's the case. Remember when PIT opened the "new" midfield terminal? (Yes, I'm that old). It featured the revolutionary shopping mall in the core, and was marketed to the people of Moon Township. Shops and restaurants would even validate parking for locals who wanted to come shop and have dinner. That was the mid 1990s.
In fact, one of my first dates with my wife was at the Fridays there in PIT. She drove in and had lunch with me during a productivity break.

Wasn't until 9/11 that they locked down security and made it so only ticketed pax could pass.

 

[Ecl!pse]

I don't think that's the case. Remember when PIT opened the "new" midfield terminal? (Yes, I'm that old). It featured the revolutionary shopping mall in the core, and was marketed to the people of Moon Township. Shops and restaurants would even validate parking for locals who wanted to come shop and have dinner. That was the mid 1990s.
In fact, one of my first dates with my wife was at the Fridays there in PIT. She drove in and had lunch with me during a productivity break.

Wasn't until 9/11 that they locked down security and made it so only ticketed pax could pass.

That's a great Friday's right there at the top of the escalator. A fond memory of my youth was the "clackety clack" made as you dragged your roller bag on the tile floor that someone thought was a good idea. Also the grey chairs with the red frame/armrests.

I suspect the confusion here has to do with @SlumTodd_Millionaire insisting that nobody had a right to be in the secure area, rather it was a privilege to be allowed in the secure area. I certainly remember family waiting for us at the gate in CHS to greet us as we arrived, right up until 9/11. After 9/11 that privilege went away.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

I don't think that's the case. Remember when PIT opened the "new" midfield terminal? (Yes, I'm that old). It featured the revolutionary shopping mall in the core, and was marketed to the people of Moon Township. Shops and restaurants would even validate parking for locals who wanted to come shop and have dinner. That was the mid 1990s.
In fact, one of my first dates with my wife was at the Fridays there in PIT. She drove in and had lunch with me during a productivity break.

Wasn't until 9/11 that they locked down security and made it so only ticketed pax could pass.

Not talking about needing a ticket. There was still security to go through, though.

 

[lostplanetairman]

Not talking about needing a ticket. There was still security to go through, though.

That’s correct. We used to go in and see my sister in law off when she visited. She had a ticket but we did not. We all went through security to get to the gate. We also would meet her upon arrival at her gate, but had to go through security.

When I retired in 2017 it was a different story. I had to provide a list of people who were attending the welcoming at the gate and crew room. They needed the list to get the attendees through security because they had no tickets.

 

[MikeD]

Back to the camp counselor FA uniforms…..

 

[Kingairer]

That's a great Friday's right there at the top of the escalator. A fond memory of my youth was the "clackety clack" made as you dragged your roller bag on the tile floor that someone thought was a good idea. Also the grey chairs with the red frame/armrests.

I suspect the confusion here has to do with @SlumTodd_Millionaire insisting that nobody had a right to be in the secure area, rather it was a privilege to be allowed in the secure area. I certainly remember family waiting for us at the gate in CHS to greet us as we arrived, right up until 9/11. After 9/11 that privilege went away.

Much of that is still around if you want to relive your child hood. Click click click click

 

[ChasenSFO]

I don't think that's the case. Remember when PIT opened the "new" midfield terminal? (Yes, I'm that old). It featured the revolutionary shopping mall in the core, and was marketed to the people of Moon Township. Shops and restaurants would even validate parking for locals who wanted to come shop and have dinner. That was the mid 1990s.
In fact, one of my first dates with my wife was at the Fridays there in PIT. She drove in and had lunch with me during a productivity break.

Wasn't until 9/11 that they locked down security and made it so only ticketed pax could pass.

Up until 9/11, SFO did that when the new international terminals opened in December of 2000. There was even a model airplane store at first where I got some Dragon Wings and Gemini Jets planes. To this day, SFO actually has an agreement with the TSA where any boarding pass gets you into any concourse so you can dine or shop anywhere, so long as you're flying.

The result? Passengers from all the other terminals accidentally going thru International terminal security scurrying around at 445AM asking how to get to their 5AM United flight to Denver since TSA didn't stop them LOL. Hey, its not perfect, but it meant that friends flying out on any airline could come up to the ramp tower, so I kept my mouth shut after realizing no one else ever brings this up LOL. During the AS\VX merger when flights were operating out of both T2 and Concourse A, it happened so often that it'd cross my mind when I'd fill in for the managers at meetings with the airport commission, but then I'd think about losing my ability to bring girls up there, and I'd allow more vacations, weddings, funerals, job interviews ect to be sacrificed. It's what Dale Earnheart would have wanted.

What did SWA do with the high amount of pandemic aid money they received? Didn’t bother upgrading systems?

They gave us tacos in OAK twice during the pandemic. And we had a limited supply of electrolyte otter pops we could only hand out when it was above 95 (basically never). So some of it went to good use.

Wow. For some reason I did not know it was only for international. Has it always been that way?

Out here straight spitting SSI dawgs LOL sheesh

 

[derg]

I'm of Dutch heritage so I have the stingy gene also...

"Vee are 3 meeeeeeters tall, are always right and love saying 'eet ees not posh-EE-bull!"

 

[Fixtur]

I'm half Dutch and 5'7". My brothers are 6'4". I think they were adopted.

 

[inigo88]

"Vee are 3 meeeeeeters tall, are always right and love saying 'eet ees not posh-EE-bull!"

 

[fholbert]

United said it had this woman's missing bag. She tracked it to a residential address | CNN

When Valerie Szybala's bag never arrived with her United Airlines flight, the airline told her it had it safe and ready for delivery. But her Airtag said otherwise -- and she tracked it to a residential address in Virginia.

www.cnn.com

In fact, Szybala already knew there was something wrong, because she could see exactly where the bag was, thanks to the Airtag. "As of Friday 30 at 8 p.m. it had gone to rest in an apartment complex a couple of miles away from me," she says.
Initially she assumed it'd be delivered to her the next day, but instead, she says, "I watched it go to McDonald's."

 

[fholbert]

Southwest meltdown may cost the airline up to $825 million

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/business/southwest-meltdown-cost/index.html

 

[MikeD]

Will Management be seeking pilot concessions “to help the company”?

 

[killbilly]

Will Management be seeking pilot concessions “to help the company”?

Herb’s gotta be spinning in his grave about now.


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[///AMG]

Don't worry, my boss (not an airline person), went on a very confident explanation of why the SWA operation fell apart. It was "90's computers", that's it. So pretty simple fix I suppose

 

[Crockrocket94]

Don't worry, my boss (not an airline person), went on a very confident explanation of why the SWA operation fell apart. It was "90's computers", that's it. So pretty simple fix I suppose

Lol. Its much much more...


here's a fun thing. We have two scheduling software programs that are designed to fix and optimize issues. 1 is from Dispatch and controls aircraft. The other is with scheduling and controls crews.

They don't talk to each other and when one starts making solutions the other has to work with it as well so when one gets all confused... AKA overloaded, the other has to go back and make new solutions to new problems and it is an exponential cluster.

Sounds swell.

 

[killbilly]

Got a little insight from someone who used to work at SWA over lunch yesterday that the seeds of the IT meltdown were planted in the ATA acquisition years ago, where SWA refused to pay for proper integration. <shrug> Secondhand info, for sure, but interesting to an industry newbie who came from a parallel discipline.

 

[roundout]

Got a little insight from someone who used to work at SWA over lunch yesterday that the seeds of the IT meltdown were planted in the ATA acquisition years ago, where SWA refused to pay for proper integration. <shrug> Secondhand info, for sure, but interesting to an industry newbie who came from a parallel discipline.

paging @SlumTodd_Millionaire

 

[roundout]

Lol. Its much much more...


here's a fun thing. We have two scheduling software programs that are designed to fix and optimize issues. 1 is from Dispatch and controls aircraft. The other is with scheduling and controls crews.

They don't talk to each other and when one starts making solutions the other has to work with it as well so when one gets all confused... AKA overloaded, the other has to go back and make new solutions to new problems and it is an exponential cluster.

Sounds swell.

LOL, they had a similar thing on a smaller scale to run ground handling ops at American Eagle. One optimizer for ramp crews. One optimizer for gate agents. They didn't talk to each other. The amount of money spent burning fuel, maintenance, and crew costs times several planes once per bank every day every month every year probably cost more than both the software and the extra bodies than it would have cost to staff properly. whatever.....I just work here. Errr, used to.

 

[Comair 100ER]

LOL, they had a similar thing on a smaller scale to run ground handling ops at American Eagle. One optimizer for ramp crews. One optimizer for gate agents. They didn't talk to each other. The amount of money spent burning fuel, maintenance, and crew costs times several planes once per bank every day every month every year probably cost more than both the software and the extra bodies than it would have cost to staff properly. whatever.....I just work here. Errr, used to.

Ahh, dynamic manning! Nothing like landing early on a beautiful day only to wait 45 mins for rampers. I forgot about that until I read this. Thanks for bringing back that memory.