The last 747 rolled out of Everett tonight.

I was a hardcore Bible-thumping “born again” Christian for the first 25 or so years of my life, then another decade as a deist, before finally realizing it was all BS. Brainwashing is hard to break.
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It's not unusual for people to use "born again" interchangeably with "zealot"

Perhaps. In my case, I meant it in the pure theological sense of how the term is meant to be used.

Now if only we can get you to have some compassion, you might be a respectable citizen.

I already have it, I just don’t let it override my pragmatism and rational thought.
 
Y’all and your stupid theological talk. This thread is about the Queen. Who cares what you worshipped, and when.

Also, there is only one -8. I’ll probably never fly it, but there’s only one.

Carry on with the only topic that should be on this thread…an aviation appliance that is inferior to the Gulfstream in every way technologically, but still superior to all of the other airliners.

Harumph! Some alcohol may be involved in this post. KMA. ;)
 
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Not sure what you mean. Maybe you don’t understand the concept of being “saved” and “born again” under evangelical theology?

Ahhh you meant the other way. I read it as you were a "born again" from childhood to your 20's. Which would just be "born and raised" :) My concept for that term is more along the lines of "I was an alcoholic and then I found God". Perhaps (and likely) I wasn't as deeply theological as you once were. My b
 
Ahhh you meant the other way. I read it as you were a "born again" from childhood to your 20's. Which would just be "born and raised" :) My concept for that term is more along the lines of "I was an alcoholic and then I found God". Perhaps (and likely) I wasn't as deeply theological as you once were. My b

I envy you for not understanding what this silliness all means. :)

Every evangelical has a specific point in time where they were “born again.” Usually it’s in some “call to the alter“ after a sermon. It’s a big emotional moment where you’re just overcome by a sense of spirituality and feel you’ve had a personal interaction with the “Holy Spirit“ that has transformed you. In reality it’s just a delusion brought on by the energy of the crowd and such. For me it was a Sunday school class when I was 10 years old.
 
I envy you for not understanding what this silliness all means. :)

Every evangelical has a specific point in time where they were “born again.” Usually it’s in some “call to the alter“ after a sermon. It’s a big emotional moment where you’re just overcome by a sense of spirituality and feel you’ve had a personal interaction with the “Holy Spirit“ that has transformed you. In reality it’s just a delusion brought on by the energy of the crowd and such. For me it was a Sunday school class when I was 10 years old.

Could a mommy makeover also be considered being born again?
 
I envy you for not understanding what this silliness all means. :)

Every evangelical has a specific point in time where they were “born again.” Usually it’s in some “call to the alter“ after a sermon. It’s a big emotional moment where you’re just overcome by a sense of spirituality and feel you’ve had a personal interaction with the “Holy Spirit“ that has transformed you. In reality it’s just a delusion brought on by the energy of the crowd and such. For me it was a Sunday school class when I was 10 years old.

So weird, but thanks for the explanation. I assume this is particular to Evangelicals, perhaps a self-proclaimed badge of honor type of thing? Don't remember anything like this in my anglican (Episcopal) upbringing. Maybe in some of the more radical congregations, but ours was very traditionally Episcopalian........minimal sermons, lots of bell ringing, candle lighting, and ritual prayers (we were essentially one minor evolutionary step away from Catholicism). I remember that adding incense to the service was a very radical and polarizing notion. That being deemed "too old fashioned" for my very traditional church that for some reason viewed itself as being progressive
 
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Every evangelical has a specific point in time where they were “born again.” Usually it’s in some “call to the alter“ after a sermon. It’s a big emotional moment where you’re just overcome by a sense of spirituality and feel you’ve had a personal interaction with the “Holy Spirit“ that has transformed you.

Many of my in-laws attend a Pentecostal church in the rural south, and the pastor *loves* an altar call at the end of the service. Sometimes it feels like he’ll just keep the already-long service going until he gets enough people up there. I bet there’s folks there who have been born again 10 times because they don’t want to miss football kickoff, or have to wait in line at the Golden Corral.
 
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