Oh Alaska(n)

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
What do you mean who cares? You have to look at the highest paying equipment in your math. And the math says if you're above 37 (and the average age of those leaving AS are 37, which means half are above that age), then you will be forever behind younger guys who will retire after you. If your goal is fly an A220 and 737 out of SEA and then one day A330, then have at it.



In April I physically flew only 12 days, credit 127.7 hrs. I did alright. I have learned some good techniques/tricks and I use everything I can even in this crappy contract to my advantage.

January I was 117.1 credit
Feb was 93.3
March was 96.3
None of those months did I physically fly more than 16 days.
May, 16 days of flying, 15 off, 97:40 credit.


I've said it before, I don't mind saying it again... I think America is headed for a world of hurt by this time next year, or by end of next year. It won't be pretty. Maybe your risk assessment is different.
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Wait, you're actually bragging about these credit hours when the conversation was DL vs AS and why people are leaving? I don't think you understand how much your peers make.

Personally, I wouldn't give up 5+ yrs seniority right now to go sit at the bottom of a 13,000+ group. The bailouts came for Covid. I don't think bailouts will come for next year's recession.
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Weren't you applying for years though? And it never happened? Not really honest is it when you kinda were ready to give up 5 years seniority?
 
RORO said:
Wait, you're actually bragging about these credit hours when the conversation was DL vs AS and why people are leaving? I don't think you understand how much your peers make.
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But I can do math, like my monthly credit x my hourly rate.


Weren't you applying for years though? And it never happened? Not really honest is it when you kinda were ready to give up 5 years seniority?
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You did note I said "right now" correct? I was looking to leave 2016-2018 which would have been 4-6 yr mark for me. This was pre-pandemic where there was no hiccup in sight and huge retirements coming with crazy movement. And I wouldn't have left because I hated my company, I wanted to leave to stay in a NYC base. There's also a difference there. Anyone coming to AS today voluntarily (don't forget, I was acquired, I didn't have a choice), must know that we only have 5 bases and they all touch the west coast. So coming to AS today and then leaving simply because there's no midwest or east coast base would be silly. So my reason for wanting to leave back in 2016-8 is vastly different.

Today? I'm less than one year away from getting capped at 12th yr max. I'm staying. We pulled the plug on NYC and just moved to California - for the second time.

TL;DR summary: 2012-2019 was a vastly different time than 2020-2022 has been. The pandemic was a panic moment for a lot of people. Don't forget Delta had lots of guys on UNA status. If it wasn't for the PSP, there would have been massive layoffs at virtually all airlines.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
But I can do math, like my monthly credit x my hourly rate.
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Cool story bro. You might find this hard to believe, but my question wasn't actually asking what YOU made or what complex arithmetic you used to figure that out, but if you knew what your peers were crediting? Because yours don't seem impressive at all, and kind of shows credence to why people should leave
 
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MikeD said:
Yup. I regularly fly with Hal when doing the pax side gig.
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He’s a great guy and took a lot of interest in those he taught. Haven’t met many like him. You could tell he genuinely cared and wanted you to succeed.


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RORO said:
Cool story bro. You might find this hard to believe, but my question wasn't actually asking what YOU made or what complex arithmetic you used to figure that out, but if you knew what your peers were crediting? Because yours don't seem impressive at all, and kind of shows credence to why people should leave
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I can see pilot bid awards on DeltaNet. Believe me, I ain’t impressed.
 
RORO said:
I was gonna prompt you how thats a stupid point because of drops and picking up premium but...

Bro...

Are you watching what other pilots got awarded for their schedules and pay at a company you don't even work for?
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I use it to see Delta loads.

I saw the APC thread under Delta about their schedules, which is I took a look. Yikes!
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I use it to see Delta loads.

I saw the APC thread under Delta about their schedules, which is I took a look. Yikes!
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So, to clear things up, you were lieing when you said you could see pilot bid awards on DeltaNet and you weren't impressed?

Because nobody said anything about loads or Deltanet at all. That was kind of all you.
 
RORO said:
So, to clear things up, you were lieing when you said you could see pilot bid awards on DeltaNet and you weren't impressed?

Because nobody said anything about loads or Deltanet at all. That was kind of all you.
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Stop being facetious.

I use DeltaNet to check loads (TravelNet through DeltaNet). I use Delta frequently for seeing family or if I punch out of my metal's DH because a Delta flight suits me better. Full stop.


After browsing APC, I saw a thread where Delta pilots were complaining about their schedules. That's when I checked out their schedule bid awards. This was several weeks ago.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Stop being facetious.

I use DeltaNet to check loads (TravelNet through DeltaNet). I use Delta frequently for seeing family or if I punch out of my metal's DH because a Delta flight suits me better. Full stop.


After browsing APC, I saw a thread where Delta pilots were complaining about their schedules. That's when I checked out their schedule bid awards. This was several weeks ago.
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Buddy I'm not being facetious. Nothing in my posts implied I was being facetious. I've been quite clear I'm trying to set the record straight in response to your words.

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So, once again, this was a lie? You aren't actually checking another airline's internal site for pilot’s bid awards as you said you had, correct?
 
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