Why do a Fly Over, when you can do a Fly In ?

The jet flyovers are awesome and all but it was on another level when a Chinook and two Blackhawks emerged from the fog on a flyover similar to this at a Seahawks game. Unfortunately, I can't find a video of that one but this one was a close second.

 
Again......Good Christ.......whoever whined about this sure did not spend any time near an airport approach zone, war zone, training areas with helos, etc. Hell, life in general is tough for these folks
 
you know....watching the game in question I said to myself; "Self, that really looks lower than normal...."... and went back to my drink....
 
The helos could’ve flared and landed, and it would be no different than them doing so at any helipad, generally speaking.

Absolutely nothing here. Except whining.

The TRUE scandal here is that the national anthem sounds like it’s being sung at a funeral, and that the flyby occurred before the end of the song. :)

However, this reinforces why I’ve always said that flyovers are a waste of time. As a pilot doing these, you at best…..at best…..break even. You never win, and you’re always at high risk of losing, by whiners and complainers who don’t even know of what they speak, EVEN if you do everything right. It’s become a completely needless hassle. And hence why all the veteran older pilots run away fast when the unit gets a flyover tasking and is looking for “who wants to do this? It’s a great opportunity!” Nope, it’s really not.
 
MikeD said:
The helos could’ve flared and landed, and it would be no different than them doing so at any helipad, generally speaking.

Absolutely nothing here. Except whining.

The TRUE scandal here is that the national anthem sounds like it’s being sung at a funeral, and that the flyby occurred before the end of the song. :)

However, this reinforces why I’ve always said that flyovers are a waste of time. As a pilot doing these, you at best…..at best…..break even. You never win, and you’re always at high risk of losing, by whiners and complainers who don’t even know of what they speak, EVEN if you do everything right. It’s become a completely needless hassle. And hence why all the veteran older pilots run away fast when the unit gets a flyover tasking and is looking for “who wants to do this? It’s a great opportunity!” Nope, it’s really not.
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I mean I assume there's a planned altitude for this sortie, and I know they practice it the day before. If they went below their planned altitude then I mean that's a reason for something, safety issue or not.
 
My favorite triggered comment was the "if you think death machines are cool "
hahaha, probably some man-bun latte foam flower arteest'

and of course, I stole the title line from the other twatter guy
 
Murdoughnut said:
I mean I assume there's a planned altitude for this sortie, and I know they practice it the day before. If they went below their planned altitude then I mean that's a reason for something, safety issue or not.
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maybe this was the planned altitude. They’re helos, they fly low and takeoff and land from places that aren’t airports. Hence why they have an altitude exception. There’s really nothing here. And nothing the FAA can make of it either, besides complain, as they’re military aircraft and aviators. For helos, don’t hit the ground and don’t hit anything attached to the ground.

it’s a flyby, not an aerobatic demonstration. But again, there’s a reason there’s nothing to be gained from doing these. Even if done “perfectly”. Military may get something out of it PR-wise, but a waste of time for the pilots involved.

By the amount of hand wringing going on in the story here, you would think what occurred was something like these below:





 
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MikeD said:
maybe this was the planned altitude. They’re helos, they fly low and takeoff and land from places that aren’t airports. Hence why they have an altitude exception. There’s really nothing here. And nothing the FAA can make of it either, besides complain, as they’re military aircraft and aviators. For helos, don’t hit the ground and don’t hit anything attached to the ground.

it’s a flyby, not an aerobatic demonstration. But again, there’s a reason there’s nothing to be gained from doing these. Even if done “perfectly”. Military may get something out of it PR-wise, but a waste of time for the pilots involved.

By the amount of hand wringing going on in the story here, you would think what occurred was something like these below:





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What the hell are Fondant Potatoes?
 


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I guess the question is, was this the planned and briefed altitude? Cuz Lt Col Holland might be able to tell you a thing or two about why people might not be happy about a demonstration flight not being flown per the briefing
 
Roger Roger said:
I guess the question is, was this the planned and briefed altitude? Cuz Lt Col Holland might be able to tell you a thing or two about why people might not be happy about a demonstration flight not being flown per the briefing
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taking a B-52 far out of its performance envelope that it’s ever intended to operate in and exceeding all limits and prohibitions of same; and helicopters making a low altitude pass which helicopters do for a living, aren’t even in the same ballpark of consideration.
 
I’m curious if they checked on where the SkyCam guide wires are first? In some stadiums they are connected to the lights. Do this in the wrong stadium, gonna be a bad day for a lot of people.
 
NovemberEcho said:
I’m curious if they checked on where the SkyCam guide wires are first? In some stadiums they are connected to the lights. Do this in the wrong stadium, gonna be a bad day for a lot of people.
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I would hope so. Being that wires and poles avoidance to a helo pilot, is as sacred as certain types of icing avoidance to a light-medium fixed wing pilot (and helos too). Even though all these helos have wire strike protections kits, they’re not an item that you want to ever exercise.
 
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