Transcon Honda jet

fholbert said:
You need to weld a coffee can on your exhaust pipe. I guess that makes you look cool.

I was on the freeway late at night when three Honda got on. The cars were making a lot of noise, rpm going higher, backfiring when they let off. Despite all the noise and lane changing I realized their speed wasn't changing they were still doing 70/75mph.
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Maximilian_Jenius said:
:p

Oooooooh, guess I got told! :D :p



Honda's are great cars, but boring. First they discontinued the Prelude, then the S2000, my last straw was the Accord V6 Coupe. Now the current iteration of the Accord comes in a weak ass CVT. Their saving grace however is the Civic, and I'm glad it still comes in a 6 sp manual. I didn't stutter @mikecweb
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You’ll get no argument that they’re boring. But as the car rags say, there’s a certain “playfulness” to Honda’s that I didn’t find in any competing Toyota I’ve experienced. I do wish there was something fun in Honda’s lineup that isn’t Civic Si, but I think those days are long gone.

It’s funny being a car geek and seeing the Honda cues and script being used in an airplane. HondaJet Si? HondaJet Elite Touring for this new one?
 
Minuteman said:
Maybe they should focus on making a jet that someone (who isn’t any of their suppliers) wants to buy before doing that other thing.
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Most delivered four years in a row in its class but I'm probably bias...
Launch was great, lot of great feedback from industry, owners and corporate flight departments.
 
deadpixel said:
Most delivered four years in a row in its class but I'm probably bias...
Launch was great, lot of great feedback from industry, owners and corporate flight departments.
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I'll concede the delivery numbers are bigger than I expected ... big-enough that any endemic design, production, or marketability flaws would likely have arisen by now. And they haven't significantly. I'm also biased kind-of the other way from exposure to the project back in the 2016-2017 timeframe.

The sort-of baseline *avoid* scenario I have in the back of my mind is the Jaffe Lockheed Sino Swearingen Emivest Metalcraft Technologies SJ30 Gulfstream Gulfjet SyberJet, which has several risky technical decisions like 1) being an early user of the Williams FJ44, 2) sea-leval cabin pressurization up to FL410, or 3) untraditional landing gear that folds into the fuselage. None of those are explicitly bad things, just ... different, like them engine stubbies on the HA-420.
 
Minuteman said:
I'll concede the delivery numbers are bigger than I expected ... big-enough that any endemic design, production, or marketability flaws would likely have arisen by now. And they haven't significantly. I'm also biased kind-of the other way from exposure to the project back in the 2016-2017 timeframe.

The sort-of baseline *avoid* scenario I have in the back of my mind is the Jaffe Lockheed Sino Swearingen Emivest Metalcraft Technologies SJ30 Gulfstream Gulfjet SyberJet, which has several risky technical decisions like 1) being an early user of the Williams FJ44, 2) sea-leval cabin pressurization up to FL410, or 3) untraditional landing gear that folds into the fuselage. None of those are explicitly bad things, just ... different, like them engine stubbies on the HA-420.
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I can recall seeing Morgan Freeman taxiing in in his SJ-30. In hindsight the airplane looks like a Phenom got loose with an F-18 and the SJ-30 popped out. He seemed pretty happy.
 
knot4u said:
Okay, let it loose in the PT 91 rodeo and see how many HNWI’s insurance companies will allow it to be flown single pilot. The insurance company is now the Administrator.
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The projected cost for this is right in the neighborhood of the Phenom 300E. And my guess is that Honda will undercut the Phenom to gain more customers. The Phenom 300 is single pilot and being both flown and insured as such. PLUS the Honda is supposed to have work-load reducing features the Phenom nor XLS+ have, making it even safer than either.
I think this will go as advertised assuming that Honda rolls one out before jet-packs become a common mode of transportation
 
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Minuteman said:
The sort-of baseline *avoid* scenario I have in the back of my mind is the Jaffe Lockheed Sino Swearingen Emivest Metalcraft Technologies SJ30 Gulfstream Gulfjet SyberJet, which has several risky technical decisions like 1) being an early user of the Williams FJ44, 2) sea-leval cabin pressurization up to FL410, or 3) untraditional landing gear that folds into the fuselage. None of those are explicitly bad things, just ... different, like them engine stubbies on the HA-420.
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I haven’t thought about the SJ30 since the epic Approach Control trolling thread of March 2009.

It was pretty clear he was trolling from the beginning but people were respectful…then he went nuts and said this to MikeD:

Approach Control said:
Are you serious? I had my USAF Pilot Slot before you even knew what an aircraft looked like.

I eventually graduated with multiple technical degrees, so I think I had the priorities set correctly. You lay a Dash 1 in front of a civilian Cadet and you had better have your light bill paid, because the lights will be on 7 days a week! Heck, we lived at the detachment once the manuals got there. Our Commander of Cadets was a former B-52 pilot, not a paper pusher, so he knew what Cadets needed and he knew what would help them. We loved that man - we would have done anything for him becasue we KNEW that he would have done anything for us - and he did. How do you think I got in the left seat of a C-5B Galaxy? How do you think I got to sit inside those Tweet/Talon classrooms at Columbus?

I was USAF pilot qualified while you were probably coming out of elementary school [possibly] - if not a lot sooner. I don't know how things worked were you got yoru Pilot Slot, but where I cam from you got into UPT by obtaining your Cadet Wings. Graduating, was icing on the cake! Are you kidding me! At Detachment 085, that's how things were done. I turned down an appointment to the USAF Academy, for family reasons [not to be discussed here]. I later had to give up my Pilot's Slot [well earned] for those same family reasons. It was the most painful thing I have ever had to voluntarily do.
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That's a lot of luggage for one passenger
 

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The smallest airplanes I’ve dealt with that were consistently flying coast to coast and sometimes beyond are the LR60 and the G150. Neither were single pilot aircraft.
 
knot4u said:
Dustoff flies a Phenom 300, he says single pilot transcon is going to be a moneymaker. Nope.
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Never said anything of this sort…….

I WROTE that the plane will sell as advertised…big difference!!

BTW @knot4u,

Up!
 
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I have learned of the Honda MH02, a one-off airframe with Mississippi State University in the very early 90's. The intent was to experiment with composite construction and the above-wing engine location.

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I assume the Squid Game windows are part of the structure experimentation.
 
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