Twin Cessna down in San Diego. UPS Driver killed sitting in his truck.

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Oh look. Yet another GA pilot in over his head, incompetent, and now a smoking hole. I can only think guess progressively shortened replied and eventual silence was the onset of a heart attack. If not, then yikes.
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I would say my condolences to the families and friends of the two lost souls. My heart goes out to their loved ones.
 
ajm757 said:
You really don’t see it going this way? People don’t like living next to smaller airports as it is, and these crashes happen frequently in the public’s mind.

Plus the war on fossil fuels is just getting heated up and there have been articles about lead in aviation fuel (100LL). I wish I could be more optimistic.
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You do realize your statement sounds dumb on so many levels. . .but I do respect your right to say it.

Kinda thinking you're "believing" what you just said. Just MY perspective.
 
NovemberEcho said:
agreed. The fights to close airports has been gaining steam. Locally the town of East Hampton has voted to close HTO. Safety and noise being the driving forces behind it for the public. Development money for the land probably the deciding factor for the town.
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Corporate pilots don't mind this so much. It sucks flying and out of there. It's one of those places thst high end clientele want to go and is an accident waiting to happen.
 
MFT1Air said:
You do realize your statement sounds dumb on so many levels. . .but I do respect your right to say it.

Kinda thinking you're "believing" what you just said. Just MY perspective.
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What sounded dumb? I just know this is on a little people's minds. I'm a huge proponent of general aviation and it's one of my biggest hobbies.
 
fholbert said:
At one point the ATC'er said something pretty smart; Just roll the wings level and climb. Don't worry about the heading.

Something was going on in that aircraft. Partial panel, engine out, navigation failure, health issue. We'll never know.
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Something happened for sure. It was a nice day, and the 340 is a pussycat of a twin to fly. This guy didn't get behind an airplane he has flown for a decade.
 
ajm757 said:
What sounded dumb? I just know this is on a little people's minds. I'm a huge proponent of general aviation and it's one of my biggest hobbies.
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Ah so. . .so the first thing that came to your mind you decide to post is a "devil's advocate's 'reflection'" of the simple minded, huh?

For me, a simple RIP for those who lost their lives. I understand a UPS driver <a driver not even a pilot> lost their life.

Any "reflections" about that?

Got it.
 
MFT1Air said:
Ah so. . .so the first thing that came to your mind you decide to post is a "devil's advocate's 'reflection'" of the simple minded, huh?

For me, a simple RIP for those who lost their lives. I understand a UPS driver <a driver not even a pilot> lost their life.

Any "reflections" about that?

Got it.
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Sure you’re not jumping the gun there a bit? No “RIP” was explicitly written in text, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not felt.

It is indeed a fact that is a directly related subject to aircraft accidents near GA.airports, especially those that result in fatalities or property loss by those who live/work near the airport, that these are used as fuel for groups who have an agenda for wanting these local airports closed down. Whether the agenda is aircraft noise, desire to repurpose or redevelop the land, or having no relation to or just a dislike for aviation in general, or an actual safety concern; a fair number of GA airports are indeed under constant threat of closure by groups small and large. There’s even groups that constantly complain about local hospital helipads as bothersome noise at all hours, I deal with those here where I am.

Natural thread subject progression of related matters and ideas, doesn’t necessarily mean one isn’t caring of those who sadly perished in the subject at hand.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I'll add to this to say that I've had several conversations with AOPA leadership lately that have increased my confidence in the organization and their mission.
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General aviation is not going anywhere. What I’m worried about are the small mom and pop operators and airports, and the not super-rich pilots who are flying.

The people in charge will make room for the private jets and Signatures at the big airports, but the rest of us will continue to be priced out.
 
fholbert said:
At one point the ATC'er said something pretty smart; Just roll the wings level and climb. Don't worry about the heading.

Something was going on in that aircraft. Partial panel, engine out, navigation failure, health issue. We'll never know.
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When I heard that, I was thinking that the controller was not only a pilot but CFI-I.
 
ChasenSFO said:
Especially with it not matching what was going on...at all
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That seems to be a new thing - there's a few YT sites that do it really well, but I think MSFS is giving some users more discretion to insert irrelevant video into the recordings. Doesn't help that most of these are coming from click bait farms in SE Asia.
 
Jgreen318 said:
Having known the pilot and his instructor (same guy who taught me) I’m going to go with the latter. He has owned the plane for at least 10 years and regularly flies that route. I know people like Jerry exist but I don’t think that’s the case here.
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When my CFI crashed a C210, everyone rushed to blame him. Everyone onboard died. When they pulled the plane out of Dana Point harbor and autopsied him, he had had a heart attack. It will be impossible to tell in this case but 10 years in the plane does minimize suspicion of inexperience.
 
mrivc211 said:
When my CFI crashed a C210, everyone rushed to blame him. Everyone onboard died. When they pulled the plane out of Dana Point harbor and autopsied him, he had had a heart attack. It will be impossible to tell in this case but 10 years in the plane does minimize suspicion of inexperience.
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An ugly truth of single pilot ops is that that stuff is probably more common than we think.
 
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