American Leads with 150K Bonuses

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
APC saying Swayne going to United. LOL

dacuj, even your Envoy marketing folks are bailin' for the other majors.
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tcco94 said:
Ugh, Thank God he isn't coming to my airline. It does seem fitting he's going to UA, they seem really focused on social media these days
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Gossip Girl xoxo...

I mean @Cherokee_Cruiser is that rumor true about Swayne? If so that's too funny when an airlines hype man leaves for a better airline.
 
Hey troll boy, you gonna respond to anything anymore or just keep tossing grenades and running? I know you have not only experienced that on forums, but also in real life...

@Dacuj
 
Yakob said:
Now now, reenactments hardly count as real life experience with ordinance. I do hope he comes back though, he's easily the most entertaining troll I've seen on this website.
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That was the intended :sarcasm:

But I'll pay to see him reenact it....
 
Any time I see retention bonuses, it means whoever is offering retention bonuses is desperate to keep people.

The military does retention bonuses. The Navy has to do it to keep any officers past their minimum obligated service. Sub guys, SEALs, Aviators, Ship drivers. Every community gets bonuses. They don't raise the pay because raising pay means the veteran's affairs department has to pay out more when guys retire from the military. because retirement pay is based only on base pay. none of the bonuses you got paid while active duty - aviation incentive pay, hazardous duty pay, flight pay, combat pay - none of that is included in retirement pay.

For the wholly-owned airlines, it means keeping the pilots locked in to staff the regional airline - and trying to entice the regional pilots to surrender control of their own careers to AA by tossing the pilots a short term low $150k payout vs having the pilots lose out on seniority at a legacy airline where they can make more money longer term.

$150k is nothing - you can make that in one year as a third year narrowbody FO at a legacy or when you upgrade to captain at a LCC. The sooner you get to a destination airline, the sooner you can start making more money than being a regional airline captain waiting for your turn to go to AA.

But when you're paid peanuts as a regional airline pilot - it's easy to make $150k look like a lot of money and get pilots to lose sight of the big picture.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I'm thinking it's true. I don't see what people have to gain by making it up. Swayne has made a big name for himself and his brand. It was only a matter of time he'd be picked up early by a major at a very young age.
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I thought people said he was blacklist at some airlines because they don't want that brand? But what do I know we let a guy go on the Bachelor so it's probably just stupid rumors.
 
woodreau said:
$150k is nothing - you can make that in one year as a third year narrowbody FO at a legacy or when you upgrade to captain at a LCC. The sooner you get to a destination airline, the sooner you can start making more money than being a regional airline captain waiting for your turn to go to AA.
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I agree with your post but making that kind of money isn't limited to legacy FOs. Pretty easy to make $150k a year as an FO (aside from first year) at my little ULCC, particularly if you live in base.
 
woodreau said:
Any time I see retention bonuses, it means whoever is offering retention bonuses is desperate to keep people.

The military does retention bonuses. The Navy has to do it to keep any officers past their minimum obligated service. Sub guys, SEALs, Aviators, Ship drivers. Every community gets bonuses. They don't raise the pay because raising pay means the veteran's affairs department has to pay out more when guys retire from the military. because retirement pay is based only on base pay. none of the bonuses you got paid while active duty - aviation incentive pay, hazardous duty pay, flight pay, combat pay - none of that is included in retirement pay.

For the wholly-owned airlines, it means keeping the pilots locked in to staff the regional airline - and trying to entice the regional pilots to surrender control of their own careers to AA by tossing the pilots a short term low $150k payout vs having the pilots lose out on seniority at a legacy airline where they can make more money longer term.

$150k is nothing - you can make that in one year as a third year narrowbody FO at a legacy or when you upgrade to captain at a LCC. The sooner you get to a destination airline, the sooner you can start making more money than being a regional airline captain waiting for your turn to go to AA.

But when you're paid peanuts as a regional airline pilot - it's easy to make $150k look like a lot of money and get pilots to lose sight of the big picture.
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I think I mentioned it somewhere above, but it looks like they took the target group of midrange seniority (FO about to upgrade/junior CA) today, plotted the projected earnings over the next 5 years of staying and flowing and punching out to Spirit now, subtracted one from the other and thence the $150k was born.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I'm thinking it's true. I don't see what people have to gain by making it up. Swayne has made a big name for himself and his brand. It was only a matter of time he'd be picked up early by a major at a very young age.
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There’s no one currently on the bottom of the list by that name.
 
woodreau said:
Any time I see retention bonuses, it means whoever is offering retention bonuses is desperate to keep people.

The military does retention bonuses. The Navy has to do it to keep any officers past their minimum obligated service. Sub guys, SEALs, Aviators, Ship drivers. Every community gets bonuses. They don't raise the pay because raising pay means the veteran's affairs department has to pay out more when guys retire from the military. because retirement pay is based only on base pay. none of the bonuses you got paid while active duty - aviation incentive pay, hazardous duty pay, flight pay, combat pay - none of that is included in retirement pay.

For the wholly-owned airlines, it means keeping the pilots locked in to staff the regional airline - and trying to entice the regional pilots to surrender control of their own careers to AA by tossing the pilots a short term low $150k payout vs having the pilots lose out on seniority at a legacy airline where they can make more money longer term.

$150k is nothing - you can make that in one year as a third year narrowbody FO at a legacy or when you upgrade to captain at a LCC. The sooner you get to a destination airline, the sooner you can start making more money than being a regional airline captain waiting for your turn to go to AA.

But when you're paid peanuts as a regional airline pilot - it's easy to make $150k look like a lot of money and get pilots to lose sight of the big picture.
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We've come a long way if were calling 150$K "nothing" now.
 
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