American Leads with 150K Bonuses

Dacuj

Dacuj

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As many of you have heard by now, Envoy pilots will be receiving 150k in retention bonuses. This is a shock and awe strategy AA is doing that will further cement Envoy and AA as the new American. It will completely throw Delta and United off and word is they have already been caught off guard by this. Trying to feed their airline with inferior product just became 10 times harder.
 
Dacuj said:
As many of you have heard by now, Envoy pilots will be receiving 150k in retention bonuses. This is a shock and awe strategy AA is doing that will further cement Envoy and AA as the new American. It will completely throw Delta and United off and word is they have already been caught off guard by this. Trying to feed their airline with inferior product just became 10 times harder.
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I'm sorry for my late rambling post. I had a few pops, got online and posted. However, now having 100% clarity of mind, the post is overall true.

I have gotten wind from a couple of guys I know in the industry that have close ties to HQ at Delta and United. They are taking this move seriously and in essence, it IS a shock and awe strategy from AA. Just think of the inferior feed that United and Delta both have. It's quite obvious when you set foot on a Whisky 200 or Commutair 145. Delay prone, dirty aircraft, many times unprofessional crews. When you set foot on an Envoy 175, you can't tell one bit of difference than when you walk onto an AA 73 or Bus. Since AA has gotten to this point, it's something Delta and United are going to have to address if they want to keep up. My opinion only of course but it comes with excellent background information.
 
Dacuj said:
I'm sorry for my late rambling post. I had a few pops, got online and posted. However, now having 100% clarity of mind, the post is overall true.

I have gotten wind from a couple of guys I know in the industry that have close ties to HQ at Delta and United. They are taking this move seriously and in essence, it IS a shock and awe strategy from AA. Just think of the inferior feed that United and Delta both have. It's quite obvious when you set foot on a Whisky 200 or Commutair 145. Delay prone, dirty aircraft, many times unprofessional crews. When you set foot on an Envoy 175, you can't tell one bit of difference than when you walk onto an AA 73 or Bus. Since AA has gotten to this point, it's something Delta and United are going to have to address if they want to keep up. My opinion only of course but it comes with excellent background information.
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Are you also reandld on APC?
 
I definitely can see Delta and United’s executives being caught off guard scared out of their pants.

Orrrr

They could be like “thank goodness we’re not such a crappy place to work that we need to pay people $150k to staff ourselves”.
 
zmiller4 said:
They could be like “thank goodness we’re not such a crappy place to work that we need to pay people $150k to staff ourselves”.
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Pretty much all regionals are crappy places to work, I suppose Envoy could be especially bad but not by much. And that's all the Retention bonuses are for, to staff their wholly owned regionals. American itself will never have trouble hiring pilots nor will any other major.
 
Dacuj said:
I'm sorry for my late rambling post. I had a few pops, got online and posted. However, now having 100% clarity of mind, the post is overall true.

I have gotten wind from a couple of guys I know in the industry that have close ties to HQ at Delta and United. They are taking this move seriously and in essence, it IS a shock and awe strategy from AA. Just think of the inferior feed that United and Delta both have. It's quite obvious when you set foot on a Whisky 200 or Commutair 145. Delay prone, dirty aircraft, many times unprofessional crews. When you set foot on an Envoy 175, you can't tell one bit of difference than when you walk onto an AA 73 or Bus. Since AA has gotten to this point, it's something Delta and United are going to have to address if they want to keep up. My opinion only of course but it comes with excellent background information.
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As a Delta frequent flyer, I wouldn't know anything about this regional feed you talk about it. Every place I need to go, Delta has a mainline jet. Even the new A220s are mainline aircraft instead of being outsourced to the lowest bidder. Maybe AA should work on that instead of trying to trick their customers into thinking they're on mainline when they're not.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
As a Delta frequent flyer, I wouldn't know anything about this regional feed you talk about it. Every place I need to go, Delta has a mainline jet. Even the new A220s are mainline aircraft instead of being outsourced to the lowest bidder. Maybe AA should work on that instead of trying to trick their customers into thinking they're on mainline when they're not.
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Guess you totally forgot about Endeavor, Republic and Skywest.
 
Dacuj said:
Guess you totally forgot about Endeavor, Republic and Skywest.
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I mean, I flew for one of them for 7 years, so don't think I forgot them. It's simply not an issue for me, usually. They serve tiny leisure markets that I don't need to fly to, or they're simply supplementing mainline aircraft so I can avoid them. That hasn't been the case when I've booked on American or United.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
I mean, I flew for one of them for 7 years, so don't think I forgot them. It's simply not an issue for me, usually. They serve tiny leisure markets that I don't need to fly to, or they're simply supplementing mainline aircraft so I can avoid them. That hasn't been the case when I've booked on American or United.
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Outside of the hubs, I guess Oklahoma City, Houston, Baltimore, Jacksonville and Nashville....just to name a few....are TINY LEISURE markets. Your argument doesn't hold water.
 
Yakob said:
Pretty much all regionals are crappy places to work, I suppose Envoy could be especially bad but not by much. And that's all the Retention bonuses are for, to staff their wholly owned regionals. American itself will never have trouble hiring pilots nor will any other major.
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It’s true.

If they were serious about making regional flying not suck, the regionals themselves would be abolished and the flying done in such a way where the paint on the jet matched the name on the checks.
 
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